Ben Sasse: What happens on January 6?
“Since Election Day, the president and his allied organizations have raised well over half a billion (billion!) dollars from supporters who have been led to believe that they’re contributing to a ferocious legal defense. But in reality, they’re mostly just giving the president and his allies a blank check that can go to their super-PACs, their next plane trip, their next campaign or project.” - Sasse
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[Don Johnson]
Great article. One thing that I think the author misses to point out, is the strong reliance that Trump had on reaching out to, reading and supporting of fringe theories. Even with the election conspiracy we see his reliance on fringe theory supporters to feed him information. I am partially convinced that Trump truly believes the election was stolen from him, mostly because he has surrounded himself with some very questionable people who feed him very questionable facts that support his concerns. It is one of the weaknesses of his presidency. He was never really good at surrounding himself with different viewpoints and people who would challenge him.
Fox’s Bret Baier Confronts Josh Hawley…
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-bret-baier-confronts-josh-hawley…
I might be recoveirng bit of respect for Fox News.
I am partially convinced that Trump truly believes the election was stolen from him, mostly because he has surrounded himself with some very questionable people who feed him very questionable facts that support his concerns. It is one of the weaknesses of his presidency. He was never really good at surrounding himself with different viewpoints and people who would challenge him.
True. He has shown a strong tendency to only want to hear from people who (a) already agree with him and (b) consistently defend and praise his every thought and deed in public.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
OK so Trump is less the stellar in his character. That is not the only problem.
1- Do you really think its ok that the media will constantly vilify Trump 24/7, even to the point of lying about him?
2-Once again, do you really think the way the election was ran in many states was ok? Because if we don’t fight back to make sure state election laws are followed next time you might as well forget about the legitimacy of elections from here on out.
3- Are you ok with it when the US Constitution says “state legislatures shall…” and state courts ignore that and change the procedure? Because apparently the media is ok with that, and apparently John Roberts is ok with that.
[Mark_Smith]OK so Trump is less the stellar in his character. That is not the only problem.
1- Do you really think its ok that the media will constantly vilify Trump 24/7, even to the point of lying about him?
2-Once again, do you really think the way the election was ran in many states was ok? Because if we don’t fight back to make sure state election laws are followed next time you might as well forget about the legitimacy of elections from here on out.
3- Are you ok with it when the US Constitution says “state legislatures shall…” and state courts ignore that and change the procedure? Because apparently the media is ok with that, and apparently John Roberts is ok with that.
1. Not OK. In no way reduces the heinousness of Trump’s conduct. In no way redeems him. Not really relevant to the election question.
2. Best I can tell, the election was run according to the laws of each state.
3. State courts have always had the role of interpreting state laws. I don’t have a line to quote but I’m pretty sure the Constitution establishes state courts as well. If it doesn’t, the state constitutions do. So, the courts are empowered by both the U.S. Constitution and the laws of each state.
Edit: it has long worked this way. The recent election controversies have not involved any new relationships/signifcant changes in relationship between courts and state legislatures.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
At least we have a Congress for guys to be idiots in.
Seriously. Imagine if we just had a single, foolish and unprincipled king with only a few nobles to slow him down. One of the blessings of elected, representative government is that idiots with different agendas cancel each other out to some extent. I find that comforting.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
[Aaron Blumer]At least we have a Congress for guys to be idiots in.
Seriously. Imagine if we just had a single, foolish and unprincipled king with only a few nobles to slow him down. One of the blessings of elected, representative government is that idiots with different agendas cancel each other out to some extent. I find that comforting.
The way it works up here is the Prime Ministers Office (PMO) pretty well controls everything, no matter what. With party discipline rules, if the PM decies on something, that’s pretty well the way it is. Right now, we have a minority government (the party with the most seats forms the government, but they don’t have a majority of seats), so there is theoretically some check on the government, but one party knows they would get crushed if there is an election, so they keep propping our idiot up.
Maranatha!
Don Johnson
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PA seems to be the first state to start this fiasco.
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2021/01/05/pennsylvania-senate-swearing…
This is becoming increasingly more and more dangerous. This is the fear that many of us were saying. The reprucussions of what Trump is doing has the real impact of bringing down our democracy if it is carried through. A democracy is a fragile thing, one in which we have gotten comfortable with because it has gone smoothly.
[Mark_Smith]OK so Trump is less the stellar in his character. That is not the only problem.
1- Do you really think its ok that the media will constantly vilify Trump 24/7, even to the point of lying about him?
2-Once again, do you really think the way the election was ran in many states was ok? Because if we don’t fight back to make sure state election laws are followed next time you might as well forget about the legitimacy of elections from here on out.
3- Are you ok with it when the US Constitution says “state legislatures shall…” and state courts ignore that and change the procedure? Because apparently the media is ok with that, and apparently John Roberts is ok with that.
1. Every president says the media is there enemy, including Obama. The media does not constantly vilify Trump. Hannity doesn’t? Much of FoxNews doesn’t, NewsMax doesn’t, OANN doesn’t…… And to be honest, most of it he deserves.
2. This election in my opinion was one of the best run elections ever. It ran smoothly, depsite the pandemic. No signs of any substantial fraud (in fact it was less than in 2016), and no signs of substantial inconsistencies. The DOJ, Federal Cyber crimes unit, 60 court cases and the Supreme Court have not heard any evidence for any real issues.
3. I believe that the courts interpreted the laws appropriately
Media here is the formal media: CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, NYT, LA Times, WaPo.
You know that.
These people have dreams that Obama will condescend to look in their general direction! They love the man!
[Mark_Smith]Media here is the formal media: CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, NYT, LA Times, WaPo.
You know that.
These people have dreams that Obama will condescend to look in their general direction! They love the man!
You can’t sit here and define media in any form that you wish. There are some news media outlets that are critical to Trump. But there are also plenty that are very supportive of Trump. Every president complains about how they are mistreated and bashed by the media. Trump just decided to complain about more publicly. Many time using infantile language, like “nasty”. He confronted the media very strongly and he got a lot of pushback. The fact is that some of the outlets were very harsh on him, with every right. Besides, if he couldn’t take it, then leave the office. His expectation was that all things should be loyal to him and praise him and if they didn’t he would either fire them or complain about them incessently. If he spent as much time worrying about the real things as he did about the media coverage, he might have gotten re-elected.
If you really think Trump’s treatment by the media was no different than Obama’s, I can’t help you. Seriously.
Questions: When is the last time you watched the CBS/NBC/ABC Nightly News? Meet the Press? This Week with George S.? Face the Nation? MSNBC? Don Lemon on CNN? Or Chris Cuomo?
Everything is not about the media.
The bias of many of the major outlets is pretty clear. But it’s a completely separate problem from what Trump has inspired members of Congress to do in defiance of the rights of the states to control their electors.
It’s a distraction and one of the worst habits of the Trump era. Whenever Trump has done something egregious his supporters scramble to shout, “But look how bad the media is!” No relevance whatsoever.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
Read what I wrote. You know I am no Trump apologist. We have a much bigger problem than Trump. Hopefully you’ll learn that now.
What we have unfolding is essentially a coup started by the President. A mob of the president supporters taking over the capital building while the president eggs them on. As disgraceful an act by a President if there ever was one. He should be impeached and tried on treason charges. This to the point of ridiculousness, and to see Christians still supporting him.
… the media is mean to Trump, and that’s what’s important.
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