Women in the Life and Ministry of Jesus

The popularity of The Da Vinci Code has forced Christians to realize that their beliefs are open to challenge. As a result, many Christians are interested in subjects that used to draw yawns. A few years ago, no one wanted to hear about the Gnostic Gospels and why we reject them, for example.

One issue raised by The Da Vinci Code is Jesus’ relationship to women. We can easily surmise that the Mary Magdalene nonsense of The Da Vinci Code is bogus, but what was Jesus’ real attitude toward women?

On the one hand, He established the church by training her basic leaders, the apostles. Only men were chosen as apostles, and the concept of male leadership in the church is consistent throughout Scripture: the Old Testament priests had to be male (according to Moses) and Paul teaches that church leaders who teach doctrine or Bible to men must be male, as must elders (1 Tim. 2:9-15, 3:1-2).

On the other hand, God used prophetesses as a channel of divine communication (e.g., Miriam, Deborah, in the Old Testament and the daughters of Philip in the New), and both men and women were encouraged to prophesy in the early church (1 Cor. 11:3-11).

Most of us understand that the reasons for these restrictions on leadership have nothing to do with competence or ability. Most of us know strong, capable godly women who have mastered the Word, as well as not-so-godly Christian men who have not. Nor are these restrictions justified on the basis of ancient culture (and thus no longer relevant). Instead, they are anchored to the order of creation and the events of mankind’s fall into sin (see 1 Tim. 2:9-15), past events that do not change (as does culture). The leadership of men in the home or in the church rises or falls together since they are mandated with similar justification. However, it takes quite a stretch to translate this concept into the political or work world.

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Ultra/Hyper Dispensationalism

Was out evangelizing last night and spoke for a while with a man who went to a ultra dispensationalist church. I am a dispensationalist, but a classical one as I believe and in no way one like this man. He believed fully that Matt-Acts and the other non Pauline books are no to be held to the same weight as Paul books. When I quoted scripture, he would rat me when it came from a non Paul book. Although he denied it, it appeared he held that Paul and Christ are opposed to each other.

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Music as Prophecy

I am preparing a sermon on 1 Corinthians 14 and ultimately focusing on the big idea that everything we do in church should be edifying to other believers.

The question I have and the reason this in the Church Music Forum is:

What is the correlation between music and the gift of prophecy?

Not to rehash the Bob Kauflin debates on prophetic / spontaneous song; or to go off the deep end with some of the fringe prophecy groupies you find on the internet.

Taking into account OT narratives such as:


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New BJU Old Testament Theology book

Anyone have a copy? I would like to buy one. Its a rare gem to get one taught from a Dispensaionalist perspective. The same goes fro systematic theology books.

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Book Review - Christian Apologetics Past and Present: A Primary Source Reader

[amazon 1581349068 thumbnail] First Peter 3:15 states, “But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear.” Apologetics is the formal study of how we are to “give an answer.”

William Edgar and K. Scott Oliphint, professors of apologetics at Westminster Theological Seminary, have done a great service to the Church in compiling a collection of writings from the New Testament era to AD 1500. This collection shows how writers from different eras, facing different challenges, have sought to defend the faith.

The volume here reviewed is the first of what originally was to be a two-volume set, and has 486 pages plus an 11-page index. In communications with someone working on volume two, I learned that the volume had grown to over 1,000 pages, and there is a possibility they will split the material from AD 1500 to the present into two volumes. If the second volume is of the same quality as the first, I hope that no material will be deleted in an attempt to limit the series to two volumes.

Making an anthology is like carving a statue. The editors, like the sculptor, must make many decisions regarding what to include and what to chisel away. In my judgment, Edgar and Oliphint have made very good—and in one case surprisingly good—selections from the material available. This book provides an excellent introduction to how believers have fought for the faith against pagans and atheists as well as against heretics and false religions.

The book begins with an excellent introduction to the overall project, providing both a short review of the state of apologetics today and the criteria for making the selections included. The editors state, “The twentieth century saw both significant development in apologetics and a measure of decline.” (p. 1) They cite the “onslaught of the Enlightenment, followed by Romanticism” (p. 2) as making both reason and faith independent of Scripture, calling for a need to develop new ways to explain our hope to the world around us. In our day, when many now associate taking religion seriously with violence, there are new challenges as well.

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Women in Church Ministry

Hi All, A great topic regarding how a complementarian would view women in the church was brought up and if anyone has time to discuss various views and scenarios in the church, I’d love to discuss it, too. Specifically in regards to:

1) What age group do you think the transfer should happen when women stop teaching “children” and men take over the bulk of the teaching?

2) Does anyone Scripturally believe that a woman cannot teach a women’s bible study? If so—why?

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The role of women in the ministry

I am a Complementarian and believe that a woman cannot preach or teach, or hold a position over men. However I think a woman can teach children. At my church they believe women can be deacons. This seems to be a grey area, as women in this church act as servants and do not pastor, teach, or preach. I know there are those that disagree with my views, and think the Bible says a woman cant pray out loud, cant give a testimony in the church, cant lead the children’s ministry without a man being present, etc.. To most I am very conservative, but to others I am a moderate. What are your views?

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