“Dave Ramsey says pastors should not ask 'broke people' to tithe until they first work on their debt and budgeting.”

"Not everyone agrees with Ramsey’s advice, however. Chuck Bentley, CEO of Crown Financial Ministries, says Christians should tithe no matter what their financial situation." - Christian Headlines

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Bert Perry's picture

I've also heard the claim that a huge portion of divorces are related to financial trouble, and I think there is indeed good data for this.  That noted, it's just a correlation, and if you look closer, you're going to see a number of ultimate causes.  Some divorce because it's how they get welfare, some divorce because over-spending reveals huge character issues in their spouse, etc..

And yes, someone wise enough to sit down with couples having trouble is going to be likely to suss this out.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Kevin Miller's picture

I'm just waiting for some Christian chef to say that pastors should not preach to overweight people about gluttony unless they have first preached about nutrition and natural foods. Smile

Bert Perry's picture

Kevin Miller wrote:

I'm just waiting for some Christian chef to say that pastors should not preach to overweight people about gluttony unless they have first preached about nutrition and natural foods. Smile

Or maybe an amateur nutritionist trumpeting his unrelated credentials.  Actually, if you look around, you'll find plenty of those, generally promoting a slightly "Christianized" version of a kosher or vegan diet.  I'm all in favor of pastors teaching on not only covetousness, but also gluttony, but at the end of the day, agreed 100% that nutrition and natural foods should not be the lead topic, but a sub-point "this is how many make it work."

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

WilliamD's picture

Bert Perry wrote:

...that both sides of this debate are really skimming around the edges of what it means to "tithe".  Ramsey avoids the principles of the widow's mite

John MacArthur made a good point about the Widow's Mite in a sermon at Shepherds Conference a few years back about how this is not a principle for giving or an example to follow. It was Jesus pointing out in the midst of pronouncing judgment on Israel, that the religious system that He was condemning was so evil, that it would compel a poor widow woman to give up her last penny with the hopes that maybe she could earn God's favor. It was an example of how corrupt religion exploits even the most vulnerable. 

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