Newsflash: Personal Discipline Is Not Legalism

“The source of the problem, ultimately, is a general sense, born out of sentiments endemic in broader culture, and perpetuated at times in Christian homes and churches, that cultivating discipline and developing a work ethic are somehow dangerous, legalistic, or antithetical to the Christian Gospel. This is patently false.” - Snoeberger

Discussion

Didn’t intend to hijack the thread but it’s an interesting possible parallel. In the African American community where the use of weaves is common, it is widely known that genuine hair may come from this source.

[josh p]

Here is a link with some information about it. If you do a google search, there is a lot of information about it but some of the reports seem pretty sensational. This is a BBC article. It talks about it mostly at the end.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37781147

Interesting stuff. I had never heard about this before until your first comment prompted me to do some online searches through which I found those two sources that I have posted earlier.

[josh p]

Didn’t intend to hijack the thread but it’s an interesting possible parallel. In the African American community where the use of weaves is common, it is widely known that genuine hair may come from this source.

It is an interesting parallel and one that I’m interested to hear what people think. Having just heard about this issue today, I will have to give it careful, prayerful examination to try to understand what should be done.

[RajeshG]
josh p wrote:

One practical application of this passage for modern believers: much of the hair in wigs today comes from hair actually sacrificed to idols. Should believers use this hair?

I have never heard anything about this. Do you have some sources for more information about this statement: “Much of the hair in wigs today comes from hair actually sacrificed to idols”?

I watched a documentary on Amazon Prime made by Chris Rock called Good Hair. I just checked for it, and it is only on Prime for three more days. It talks about hair extensions and relates that the companies which make them often buy hair from temples in India. If you get a chance to check the movie out in the next three days, the part about the temple starts at the 56 minute mark.

Here is an article I found about the ceremonies in case you don’t have Prime. The article doesn’t mention the fact that the hair can then be sold. https://www.nomadbarber.com/blogs/barbering/hindu-haircuts#:~:text=The%….

[Kevin Miller]
RajeshG wrote:

josh p wrote:

One practical application of this passage for modern believers: much of the hair in wigs today comes from hair actually sacrificed to idols. Should believers use this hair?

I have never heard anything about this. Do you have some sources for more information about this statement: “Much of the hair in wigs today comes from hair actually sacrificed to idols”?

I watched a documentary on Amazon Prime made by Chris Rock called Good Hair. I just checked for it, and it is only on Prime for three more days. It talks about hair extensions and relates that the companies which make them often buy hair from temples in India. If you get a chance to check the movie out in the next three days, the part about the temple starts at the 56 minute mark.

Here is an article I found about the ceremonies in case you don’t have Prime. The article doesn’t mention the fact that the hair can then be sold. https://www.nomadbarber.com/blogs/barbering/hindu-haircuts#:~:text=The%2…’s%20life.

I do not have Prime. Thanks for the link; it was informative.

My wife has been telling me about that documentary and we even started watching it once. Still need to finish it.

[josh p]

Didn’t intend to hijack the thread but it’s an interesting possible parallel. In the African American community where the use of weaves is common, it is widely known that genuine hair may come from this source.

I think perhaps a parallel to buying meat in the marketplace would apply. As long as you don’t specifically ask where the hair came from, and the seller doesn’t make a point of proclaiming that it came from a temple, then I think a Christian would be okay wearing it.

[josh p]

One practical application of this passage for modern believers: much of the hair in wigs today comes from hair actually sacrificed to idols. Should believers use this hair?

Right application depends on a right understanding of what a passage teaches and what the rest of the Bible teaches about the subject. In the case of hair, there are several other passages that would have to be considered.
Concerning the eating of things offered to idols (1 Cor. 8:4), understanding correctly what Paul believed and taught that he had liberty to do is essential because he mentions it both near the beginning of the passage and toward the end of the passage as a key consideration:
1 Corinthians 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.

1 Corinthians 10:29 Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man’s conscience?
What specifically did Paul believe that he and they (the Corinthian believers) had the liberty to do concerning the eating of things offered to idols?

Can’t remember the link, but in Jewish circles, apparently it’s a thing where some Orthodox women wear wigs in public instead of showing their own hair to the world, modesty in extreme as it were, and there was a big “to-do” involving all the top rabbis when people learned the hair came from Hindu rites in India. Don’t know what they eventually determined.

That noted, I think this is in the same category as meat that was sacrificed, but was being sold in the market without any overt indication that it was from an offering. 1 Corinthians 10:25-31 makes this very clear.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.