JD Greear urges pastors not to call VP Kamala Harris ‘Jezebel,' but to pray for her
“Greear’s guidance comes in the wake of SBC’s pastors, including SBC Executive Committee member Steve Swofford, referring to the vice president by the term.” - C.Post
Related: RNS, Jan 29 - Some Southern Baptist pastors are calling Kamala Harris ‘Jezebel.’ What do they mean?
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[Mark_Smith]Do you support Harris and Biden’s policies to open the border, open up transgender, LGBTQ etc rights? Abortion provisions as well.
Plenty of people here on SI have made it abundantly clear that policies like those you refer to here are MUCH less of an evil or problem to them than Trump was.
Dave Barnhart
[T Howard]Dave, from reading some on SI, Trump was the best thing to happen to the Republican party since Reagan.
That’s a long ways from calling him godly or a role model for Christianity.
Dave Barnhart
[Mark_Smith]Do you support Harris and Biden’s policies to open the border, open up transgender, LGBTQ etc rights? Abortion provisions as well.
No, but I’m not going to refer to Biden as the antichrist and to Harris as Jezebel. That’s just plain moronic.
[T Howard]No, but I’m not going to refer to Biden as the antichrist and to Harris as Jezebel. That’s just plain moronic.
Wow. Something on which we can actually agree.
Dave Barnhart
Are these people actually calling Biden “the anti-Christ” and Harris “the Jezebel”, or are they saying Biden has an “anti-Christ like worldview” and Harris a “Jezebel-like worldview.”
[T Howard]As long as you apply this to Donald J Trump as well.
[Oh, SNAP!]
I’m literally shocked that our betters haven’t admonished us regarding the evils of “whataboutism” in light of this comment.
Also, the obligatory, “Can we stop discussing politics?” seems nowhere to be found. Huh.
That comment came from Tom Buck (PhD, Southern Seminary), who (to quote Aaron) has “left the field” and does little but attack people on Twitter like a mad dog. I am fairly certain he’s a very different man in real life, but he has adopted the persona of the enraged Christian warrior in cyberspace, unfortunately.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
[KD Merrill] I’m literally shocked that our betters haven’t admonished us regarding the evils of “whataboutism” in light of this comment.
I would have thought the [Oh, SNAP!] comment would have been a context clue to you that I made my comment in jest.
But, if you’re still salty for rightly being called out for “whataboutism,” I was joking.
Did he have any other sermons? I’m not against repeating things that are worth repeating, but there is a point where you’ve got to ask whether the preacher is having something of a crisis of creativity!
It is common for people who speak as a guest speaker to frequently repeat the same sermon. In fact, in many cases, it is a requested. So no, this isn’t really an indication of anything.
This seems a tempest in a teapot. The point of the comment seems clear: Should we aspire to be like someone simply because they are in a position of power? Why is Kamala Harris a cause for celebration rather than grief? Why is she held up as a model simply because she was attached a man who got elected to the presidency? Harris was so compelling as a candidate she was polling in very low single digits and dropped out of the race prior to the first primary. In other words, her own party didn’t even like her and want her to be president.
Whether or not it is wise to call her Jezebel is quite simply missing the point.
But why not answer the question: Would anyone hold up Jezebel as a role model simply because she was queen? Isn’t the obvious answer “No”? And since that is the obvious answer, why is this different?
I mean that. I genuinely pray for them. And not one of those “God make them believe what I believe” prayers either. I pray that the spirit of God would come on them and transform them by his mighty power.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out how ungodly leaders today are like the ungodly leaders in Scripture. Maybe a metaphor is too strong and a simile should be used. “This leader is like Jezebel,” or “This leader is like King Saul/Herod/Pilate,” and then explain how.
[Jonathan Charles]There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out how ungodly leaders today are like the ungodly leaders in Scripture. Maybe a metaphor is too strong and a simile should be used. “This leader is like Jezebel,” or “This leader is like King Saul/Herod/Pilate,” and then explain how.
This technique is really just Christian virtue signaling.
[Bert Perry]That’s 20 years of Sunday mornings. Did he have any other sermons? I’m not against repeating things that are worth repeating, but there is a point where you’ve got to ask whether the preacher is having something of a crisis of creativity!
Yeah I agree. Crazy if true. It was pretty good though…
[Mark_Smith]Is it ok to call VP Harris an unrighteous ungodly person whom no Christian should look to as a role model? Is it ok to say that her policies are an abomination and should be opposed at every opportunity?
Of course.
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