Conservative publication fact checks election fraud stories
“All of these claims, with the exception of the absentee Georgia ballots (which seemed like honest confusion and could actually have hurt Joe Biden if true, given his general advantage in mailed-in ballots), were shared to bolster the claim that the election was stolen from Donald Trump. And all of them, with the exception of the claim that Pennsylvania reported a batch of ballots all for Biden, were false. (Even that one was missing some context.)” - The Dispatch
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Do you really believe SCOTUS is EVER gonna say, hold it. Hold it. The MI election commission was corrupt. The counting software was bad. Philly is corrupt. Don’t count the votes in Fulton county GA, that’s all corrupt. On and on. And then call the election for Trump?
Ain’t gonna happen. Deal with it.
[Mark_Smith]Do you really believe SCOTUS is EVER gonna say, hold it. Hold it. The MI election commission was corrupt. The counting software was bad. Philly is corrupt. Don’t count the votes in Fulton county GA, that’s all corrupt. On and on. And then call the election for Trump?
Ain’t gonna happen. Deal with it.
….but I still keep holding out hope that someone, somewhere, is going to do the hard statistical work to say “this cannot happen randomly, we need to investigate”, and someone else is going to do exactly that and either put some people in jail (less likely) or figure out a way of keeping elections more secure.
I’ve noted since I was young how if you were watching an election in Illinois or Michigan, you had to watch very carefully where those late votes were going to come from—and 95% of the time, those late votes were coming from Chicago or Detroit, and infuriatingly often, those votes counted in the wee hours of the morning put the Democrat over the top in close elections. We joked about the Daleys and “vote early and often” or “don’t let being dead get in the way of voting” for a reason, and evidently this time, the Michigan Secretary of State appears to have shut down the system by which one could figure out if one’s dead grandfather had voted. The amateur sleuths claimed to have found hundreds of examples. In Pennsylvania, it appears that former heavyweight Joe Frazier, who died in 2011, may have voted.
Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.
[Bert Perry]….but I still keep holding out hope that someone, somewhere, is going to do the hard statistical work to say “this cannot happen randomly, we need to investigate”, and someone else is going to do exactly that and either put some people in jail (less likely) or figure out a way of keeping elections more secure.
I’ve noted since I was young how if you were watching an election in Illinois or Michigan, you had to watch very carefully where those late votes were going to come from—and 95% of the time, those late votes were coming from Chicago or Detroit, and infuriatingly often, those votes counted in the wee hours of the morning put the Democrat over the top in close elections. We joked about the Daleys and “vote early and often” or “don’t let being dead get in the way of voting” for a reason, and evidently this time, the Michigan Secretary of State appears to have shut down the system by which one could figure out if one’s dead grandfather had voted. The amateur sleuths claimed to have found hundreds of examples. In Pennsylvania, it appears that former heavyweight Joe Frazier, who died in 2011, may have voted.
Ain’t going to happen because it isn’t there. If Trump, Rudy, Barr, GOP, the executive branch have all of these examples and data, and file all of these clear examples that will show there was a problem then they should file them. Take a look at the lawsuits, take a look at the responses from the AG and Secretary of State, and you will see there is nothing there. The suits have little data in them. That is why they are all practically getting thrown out, even though a bunch of these judges are republican and the Supreme Court is conservative. Keep dreaming and looking for something. It isn’t there. There are some irregularities here and there, just like any and every election. There is no fraud and no impact to the votes or the outcome. I am just glad this guy is gone.
[dgszweda]There is a process and it will take time. There is going to be a recount in Georgia. Ten Republican AGs are before SCOTUS today to make their case concerning what was done in PA.Ain’t going to happen because it isn’t there. If Trump, Rudy, Barr, GOP, the executive branch have all of these examples and data, and file all of these clear examples that will show there was a problem then they should file them. Take a look at the lawsuits, take a look at the responses from the AG and Secretary of State, and you will see there is nothing there. The suits have little data in them. That is why they are all practically getting thrown out, even though a bunch of these judges are republican and the Supreme Court is conservative. Keep dreaming and looking for something. It isn’t there. There are some irregularities here and there, just like any and every election. There is no fraud and no impact to the votes or the outcome. I am just glad this guy is gone.
0 for 5 in lawsuits for fraud.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-irregularities-c…
Why? Because there is absolutely no evidence provided by the GOP or Trump. Just rumors, hearsay and my favorite “a sticky note”. They are speculating there is evidence of misconduct, but no proof of misconduct. If they had all of this proof that Rudy is parading around, why is everyone getting dismissed for lack of any proof, not procedural issues or lack of law applicability.
What a joke.
But some here just don’t want to see it. I guess we’ll wait and see, shall we?
https://www.newsmax.com/us/detroit-affadavit-vote-fraud/2020/11/09/id/9…
From this article:
A Detroit city worker who was assigned to the election has sworn in an affidavit that she and others were ordered to change mailing dates on ballots and observed supervisors “coaching” voters to cast ballots for Democrat Joe Biden.
Jessy Jacob, a longtime city worker, signed the affidavit in a lawsuit by the Great Lakes Justice Center – which says it focuses on freedom of speech, religious liberty, and sanctity of life, among other issues – on behalf of two Michigan voters.
It claims ballots were forged, voters were coached to cast ballots, dates were changed on absentee ballots, people were allowed to vote in person and cast an absentee ballot, ballots were counted for which there was no registered voter, and tens of thousands of ballots arrived late, all for Democrat Biden.
From: https://www.newsmax.com/politics/kenstarr-constitution-ballot-extension…
The disputed Pennsylvania ballot extension forced by state courts over the legislature is a “constitutional travesty,” according to famed prosecutor Ken Starr.
“What happened in Pennsylvania over these recent weeks is a constitutional travesty,” Starr told Fox News’ “Life, Liberty & Levin.” “Gov. [Tom] Wolf tries to get his reforms, his vision, as he was entitled to do, through the legislature of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. He failed.
“He then goes to the state Supreme Court, which by a divided vote, accepted the substance of what Gov. Wolf was doing, and then added thereon nooks and crannies as well.”
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The case that might be brought before the Supreme Court may argue a number of votes in Pennsylvania be thrown out as “illegal” for a number of reasons, including being cast late, being cast illegally, not separated as guided by Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, and not have been counted with “meaningful” monitoring as required by law.
Donald Trump lost.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
[Adam Blumer]Any information for why they are not showing either PA or AZ for Biden and his having a total of 259?
I don’t. I was just watching Newsmax, and they mentioned what I reported. I checked RealClear, and it was so. I don’t know much more than that. There is a pending lawsuit in Pennsylvania, so that could be why. I didn’t know about Arizona.
No matter how many links people post here with wild-eyed abandon, know this … Donald Trump still lost.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
Not while there are votes still being counted (and recounted) in several states, Trump hasn’t conceded, and pending lawsuits haven’t been settled. It doesn’t matter how prematurely you and the media say it’s so. When the time comes, it may be so, but there are legal parameters that decide that when the time is right. We aren’t there yet.
The true test will be if Christians will ever concede that their political idol lost the election. I suspect many will not ever do so. They will spin elaborate conspiracy theories forever … anything it takes to nurture their worldview of eternal despair.
The philosophy of cultural engagement among too many evangelicals can best be characterized as “perpetual outrage.” There must always be something to be outraged about, to rail against, to fight against. Crisis! Anger! To arms! The libs are coming! Take back our country! The election was stolen! Not my president!
It is sad. I’m not sure how Christians live lives of such eternal frustration. I had people at church last Wednesday who were in tears about the election, because they’ve been radicalized by Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and the other usual suspects to believe the world will perhaps end if Trump isn’t re-elected. This is not the way, my brothers. I had to write a bulletin insert to address the visible despair in the congregation. This fascination with Truimp is idolatry.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
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