Conservative publication fact checks election fraud stories
“All of these claims, with the exception of the absentee Georgia ballots (which seemed like honest confusion and could actually have hurt Joe Biden if true, given his general advantage in mailed-in ballots), were shared to bolster the claim that the election was stolen from Donald Trump. And all of them, with the exception of the claim that Pennsylvania reported a batch of ballots all for Biden, were false. (Even that one was missing some context.)” - The Dispatch
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[Kevin Miller]Concerning the election bellwethers in this election, here’s an article that helps:
https://trendingpolitics.com/wsj-s-post-election-analysis-of-bellwether…
From this article:
From 1980 through 2016, 19 of the nation’s more than 3,000 counties voted for the eventual president in every election. Only one of them, Washington state’s Clallam County, backed President-elect Joe Biden last week.
The point is that unlike every other Presidential election since 1980, 18 of the 19 bellwether counties did not back the one who “won” the election—Biden. Instead, those 18 bellwether counties all voted for the “loser” in this election—Trump.
RajeshG,
the spectator article indirectly stereotypes African-American voters, as if they wouldn’t vote for Biden more than Obama. Hogwash! From my connections with both Grand Rapids area blacks and Detroit blacks through various inner-city community organizations and churches, this was probably the biggest voting drive done by blacks that I’ve seen in my lifetime, including when Obama was president. Even though Trump was able to garner more black voters than any other Republican, it’s because he energized blacks from the Health and Wealth Gospel Churches, along with the usual small group of conservative African Americans that usually vote Republican.
The majority of African-Americans want police reform, plain and simple. After the unjust tragic deaths of Amaud Arbery and George Floyd, the enormous amount of blacks backed Biden because Trump only spoke of law and order, while Biden talked about reform despite the slander by conservatives (even here on Sharper Iron) that tried to link Biden and the Democratic Platform to the extreme elements of the democratic party (AOC and the Squad) who favored crazy policies that defunded the police. In the minds of many African-Americans, their lives depended on it which is why they voted for Biden. To be honest, I’m sick and tired of false narratives about African-Americans who my fellow conservatives know little about and barely have any relationships with because they are so locked into their conservative media echo chamber. They rely on political hacks such as Candace Owens and Larry Elder to confirm their biases about black people and black culture.
Joel, I have several Blacks in my church. One couple supported Biden. They were active in Democratic politics long before they became members of our church. At their age, I don’t expect that will change. Our congregation loves them, and respects their choices. (We also have at least one White member who supported Biden.)
Another Black couple strongly supported Trump. When I first heard this it surprised me. This man tells me that many of his Black friends supported Trump. Interesting.
A third Black member did not express his voting preference, and I certainly did not ask. He has made comments about his opposition to defunding the police, and the criminal behavior of the BLM movement. I wouldn’t be surprised if he voted for Trump, but won’t know unless he tells me. I know I don’t have the breadth of experience with Black Americans that you do, but you are not the only one who interacts with Blacks. It seems to me that Black Americans are beginning to loosen their loyalty to Democrats.
G. N. Barkman
I am not saying that black people necessarily vote monolithic. One of the black men that I disciple voted for Trump. Another who is on staff with me probably did 3rd party. I know several conservative blacks in Grand Rapids that voted for Trump in 2016 but voted for Biden or 3rd party because Tim Scott was the only Republican that was pushing hard for some type of Police reform and other aspects of Criminal Justice Reform because the other Republicans were too frightened of the powerful police unions and the Private Prison lobby. Out of the several hundred blacks that I have an ongoing relationship with, only a handful advocate for police defunding. But the fact still stands that, although Trump received more black votes than any other Republican in history, an enormously huge group of African-Americans (some of which didn’t even care for Biden) in the inner-cities and old suburbs voted for Biden in larger number numbers than Obama ever did because of the president’s posture of law and order with nothing to say about reform. When conservative media talking heads resort to conspiracy theories about voting in the ‘hood, it demonstrates to me how culturally unaware they are of the distrust that so many African-American folks in higher crime areas have of the police. I am blown away at the arrogance of so many of my fellow conservatives that believe if you just get a Republican mayor or that you get Republican-controlled bureaucrats to run the city, magically the city will experience reductions in crime and other social pathologies. It is much much more complicated than just electing the people with your political ideology. And it’s so much more complicated because of the pervasive nature of sin that has affected every aspect of government and policy and the people who run the government as well as those who are their constituents.
The vast majority of blacks that I know have some values akin to conservatives and if the Republican platform would include Police Reform, Health Care for everyone (there are conservative ways to make it cheap without universal government, but the Health Insurance Lobby won’t allow it) Immigration Reform, and solutions for the housing crisis and where the Republican party was advocating a womb-to-the-tomb Pro-life ethic, you’d have a huge, mass exodus to the Republican party. Black radical social critic Michael Dyson made this observation about 3 years ago. He himself is a progressive (probably leans socialist), but publicly said that if the Republicans made a more intentional outreach into the black community that went beyond just talking about marriage/fatherlessness and had conservative solutions to social issues such as police reform, health care, immigration reform, the housing crisis, and etc… Republicans would be the party of black folks. In one way, Trump has shown to Republicans reaching out to black folks can be done, but there needs to be much more. If Republicans would adopt some of the Libertarian solutions to alleviating poverty, criminal justice reform, housing, and immigration, you would see a massive shift towards their party. But right now, they won’t because of powerful lobby groups and because blacks still trust the Democrats more (which isn’t saying much).
[Joel Shaffer]The vast majority of blacks that I know have some values akin to conservatives and if the Republican platform would include Police Reform, Health Care for everyone (there are conservative ways to make it cheap without universal government, but the Health Insurance Lobby won’t allow it) Immigration Reform, and solutions for the housing crisis and where the Republican party was advocating a womb-to-the-tomb Pro-life ethic, you’d have a huge, mass exodus to the Republican party.
You’ve just listed in a nutshell my major gripes with the Republican party. I’m white and a registered Republican, but really wish that these issues were addressed in their platform.
Round and round we go :-)
Dr. Paul Henebury
I am Founder of Telos Ministries, and Senior Pastor at Agape Bible Church in N. Ca.
Tonight the WI Election Commission is meeting to discuss the recount petition filed by the Trump campaign. It’s interesting to read the comments by the board’s partisan members. The Democrat members are discussing rule changes proposed by staff members after the Trump campaign filed for a recount. Regardless of how you feel about the President or the likelihood of some sort of fraud or other irregularity affecting the outcome of the election, does this kind of thing produce confidence in the system or does it simply add fuel to the fire?
Trump campaign has spent 3 million for recount in parts of Wisconsin. It won’t make much difference. Looks like the Wis Election Commission squabbling has to do with recounting procedural technicalities… and proposed changes didn’t get anywhere. If they had, I’m sure there would have been another legal challenge.
The commissioners deadlocked on making changes to the manual that Democrats and elections commission staff said would bring the guidance into line with current state law. Republicans balked, saying the guidelines should not be changed after Trump filed for the recount.
Their inability to agree leaves in place guidance that says absentee ballot applications must be approved as part of the recount, even though commission staff said that’s not required under the law. AP
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[Aaron Blumer]Trump campaign has spent 3 million for recount in parts of Wisconsin. It won’t make much difference. Looks like the Wis Election Commission squabbling has to do with recounting procedural technicalities… and proposed changes didn’t get anywhere. If they had, I’m sure there would have been another legal challenge.
The commissioners deadlocked on making changes to the manual that Democrats and elections commission staff said would bring the guidance into line with current state law. Republicans balked, saying the guidelines should not be changed after Trump filed for the recount.
Their inability to agree leaves in place guidance that says absentee ballot applications must be approved as part of the recount, even though commission staff said that’s not required under the law. AP
Right. If they wanted to put to rest the Trump campaign’s fraud allegations and conspiracy theories, they’re doing it very badly.
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