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The Main Point of the Christian Doctrine of Sin: We Are All “Damaged Goods”

By TylerR on Mon, 02/13/17
Bible, Theology & Philosophy
Original Sin

Roger Olson: The idea that “being born a certain way” automatically makes that “way” right and good is a blatant denial of the biblical-traditional doctrine of sin … What tends to happen … is an elevation of inclusion of everyone (who wants to be included) within the Body of Christ, regardless of their lack of acknowledgement and repentance of their being fallen and sinners, to the status of a doctrine.

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TylerR

NewGay "Christianity"

Mon, 02/13/17

I think Olson makes a lot of sense. I’ve said and thought the same thing for a while now.

Everybody is born broken and destroyed by sin. To be practical, this is why I’ve never thought it really mattered whether somebody was “born gay” or not. People are born with all sorts of weaknesses for particular sins. None of them are excusable, and it simply proves we’re all sinners in need of redemption. Basically, it doesn’t matter if you were “born gay” or not. You’re broken and destroyed by sin, and your sin proves you need Christ. Period.

Am I giving away the farm, here?

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.

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Ron Bean

NewLady Gaga

Mon, 02/13/17

I’m a 69 year old pastor who serves as an elder in a church of millenials. I was preaching on Psalm 51 and stated that we are what we are because we were “born that way”. There was a subdued chuckle through the congregation in reaction to my accidental cultural reference to Lady Gaga.

"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan

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TylerR

NewWeird Al

Mon, 02/13/17

Weird Al did a parody of that song entitled, “I Perform That Way,” in reference to Lady Gaga’s bizarre costumes.

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.

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Bert Perry

NewInteresting side note

Mon, 02/13/17

….is that more and more on the fringes of evangelicalism, the very phrase “damaged goods” is becoming almost an expletive….our “therapeutic nonjudgmental” age seems to be trying to excise the notion of sin and being damaged thereby out of our vocabulary.

But that said, if Romans 3:23 is true, then we are all damaged goods.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

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  • Jacob Arminius and the Doctrine of Original Sin, Part 6
  • Adam and Sin as the Bane of Evolution? A Review of Finding Ourselves After Darwin
  • Theology Thursday - The Council of Trent on Original Sin

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