Known issues
Forum category
We’ll list known problems here in the top post of this thread… feel free to post comments about anything technical.
Known Issues
- April 14, 2010: after some securities updates to the site, the Front Page and Filings posts are not showing up in Forum lists. We have techs digging into why this is and hope to have it back to normal shortly.
- Site Data before June 1: all the old articles and forum activity (fixed) are intact and waiting to be made available in some way. We’re discussing w/several folks who have ideas and should have a solution to announce soon. Update: forum archive online. Just working on article databse now.
- Private Messaging: no folder system yet and tag filtering is pretty iffy I’m told. The PM system is definitely beta so expect improvements over the next few months as the brains at drupal.org refine it.
- Browseable site member list: knew I forgot something! We’ll get one up soon. Workaround: use the search box (though accounts less than an hour old may not show up yet in searches… indexing, you know). It’s nothing fancy yet, but a browseable member list is available to other members at http://sharperiron.org/memberlist
- Profile picture: before you can change your profile pic, you have to delete your current one. Would be nice to be able upload a new one and delete the current in one step… or keep several in profile. Also, if you change your profile pic and want to see it in your browser, you’ll probaby have to refresh a few times or even close and reopen your browser (this is not a bug. Caching the pix helps keep things from getting slow)
- Latest posts/todays posts view: this is missing from Foundry. Plan to return it soon. fixed
- Latest posts/counts on Forums page: these are not updating as quickly as we’d like. Looking into what needs adjusting…. likewise for “new” indicators.
- Ladies Only Forum: the subforums there have not been built yet. Soon. fixed
- Post links in Foundry: if post is on the second page (not on the first page) it takes you to the top of the first page instead of to the post. Status: not fixable short-term. The Foundry does not “know” what page posts are on.
- Foundry: OP’s (original posts)/ thread-starter posts, don’t show. Should have this fixed soon. fixed
- Foundry: Most active ever - something is currently wrong w/how posts are counted there. (Schwenke has not posted 153 times!). Tabled for now.
- FAQ links not showing in Internet Explorer 8 - this is some kind of IE problem. We recommend Firefox. Will be looking for fix for IE eventually. fixed
- Multiple subscriptions/notifications. Update: this appears to occur when a comment is edited… one notification goes out per edit. One workaround is to set your notifications to go out in bunches ever x period of time rather than “immediate.” What that does is reduce your number of emails, though you’ll still have a line & link for each edit in the emial that goes out. 9/10/09: we now also have a “Save without sending email notification” option as well so you can edit your post without emailing a notif. for each edit you save.
- Scripture reference popups (Reftagger). Selected translation in Bible Options box not saving. fixed
- Articles & Filings not showing up in forums - known issue. Do not yet know cause of this, but getting closer.
- Clicking the Quote link takes you to an uneeded “Reply” page… Since we don’t use threading (where replies to posts are indented and placed directly below the post you’re replying to), there is really no reason for the Quote link to take you to a reply page.
Feature Requests
- Combined RSS feed for both Filings and front page articles. [done:
- Ability to disable missiles fired from North Korea… [rejected: (Considering feature that will alow re-aiming, though)
- Text formatting bar (for bold, italics, etc.)… [maybe: … in the mean time, Greg L. recommends a Firefox plug in: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/128
- Shinier stars in the forums w/new posts icon. [done:
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Full Text Feed Content For RSS Feeds - [approved: (Pending ability to get ads into the feeds)
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[ChrisC]…there was a limit of 100 total messages that could be stored. does the new system have a limit? i don’t see anything about it. i always thought 100 was too few, so if there is a limit i hope it’s higher. i had something between 90 and 100 messages when i exported, and the exported files are only about 200kb.There will be a limit eventually, just to keep the database sane. More than 100 will probably be possible, but can’t guarantee that at this point.
[ChrisC] are there read receipts on private messages in the new system? the old system could notify you when the recipient had read the message.The PM system is “beta” so alot of things in it are pretty goofy. (You also can’t reply to the sender-only if he/she copied others in message to you… everybody who is in on the message in the beginning is in on all the replies… I think that’s goofy). Anyway, the team that is building the PM module is cranking out new code almost every day, so it’s only going to improve over time. Tags will eventually become something very similar to what you have in Gmail… a sort of tag/folder system.
do message tags do anything now? i can’t figure out how they work. is it just a placeholder for some planned feature?
[Matthew Olmstead] In the foundry under recent posts I click the post title (not the thread title). If the post is on the first page, it takes me to the post. If, however, the post is on the second page (not on the first page) it takes me to the top of the first page.That’s a bug. Will plan to check later to see if someone’s working on it yet.
FWIW, use of “Magic” Erasers might cause dissension and concerns amongst certain Fundamentalists…
Greg Linscott
Marshall, MN
[Greg Linscott] FWIW, use of “Magic” Erasers might cause dissension and concerns amongst certain Fundamentalists…Well, and they are made by Proctor and Gamble…let’s just trot all the skeletons out of the closet while we’re at it. :bigsmile:
"I pray to God this day to make me an extraordinary Christian." --Whitefield http://strengthfortoday.wordpress.com
[Diane Heeney]I don’t think you really want to roll your creamer together with your OxyClean. :bigsmile:[Greg Linscott] If you use Firefox, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/128] BBCode helps you format in both BB Code and HTML. It’s invaluable for sites like SI.Bro Greg, I have to say this plug-in is the next best thing to Magic Erasers, OxyClean and vanilla caramel coffee creamer rolled into one. I am absolutely the happiest camper in cyberspace. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I’ve skimmed through the posts in this forum and seen reference to a “new posts” link on the Foundry page, but was wondering if we could get one on the Forums page. There used to be one at the top. I don’t usually come in through the Foundry or Front Page — I usually just come straight to the forums, click to see what’s new, and then click on whatever new comments I might be interested in.
I think in looking around I also saw a “new posts” type of link at the bottom of threads, but ti would be nice to have a general one for the forums at the top.
I think in looking around I also saw a “new posts” type of link at the bottom of threads, but ti would be nice to have a general one for the forums at the top.
[Barbara H.] I’ve skimmed through the posts in this forum and seen reference to a “new posts” link on the Foundry page, but was wondering if we could get one on the Forums page. There used to be one at the top. I don’t usually come in through the Foundry or Front Page — I usually just come straight to the forums, click to see what’s new, and then click on whatever new comments I might be interested in.OK, I did just see “New Threads” at the bottom of the Forums page. Does that just take us to new threads or will that also let us know when new comments are posted on established threads? At the moment it is not doing anything when I click it.
I think in looking around I also saw a “new posts” type of link at the bottom of threads, but ti would be nice to have a general one for the forums at the top.
[Barbara H.]This could be a revolutionary new product that lets you drink your coffee w/o getting stains on your teeth. :bigsmile:[Diane Heeney]I don’t think you really want to roll your creamer together with your OxyClean. :bigsmile:[Greg Linscott] If you use Firefox, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/128] BBCode helps you format in both BB Code and HTML. It’s invaluable for sites like SI.Bro Greg, I have to say this plug-in is the next best thing to Magic Erasers, OxyClean and vanilla caramel coffee creamer rolled into one. I am absolutely the happiest camper in cyberspace. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
"I pray to God this day to make me an extraordinary Christian." --Whitefield http://strengthfortoday.wordpress.com
Is it just me, or do the stats seem squirrely on the Foundry page? Pardon if this has already been mentioned. The scrolling is making me dizzy. :shock:
"I pray to God this day to make me an extraordinary Christian." --Whitefield http://strengthfortoday.wordpress.com
The text for my weekly Sunday Hymnary used to just wrap around in the old blogroll, instead of appearing as stanzas. With the upgrade, I have stanzas now. Another happy day. :) Just thought I’d put some good news on here too!
"I pray to God this day to make me an extraordinary Christian." --Whitefield http://strengthfortoday.wordpress.com
[Barbara H.] OK, I did just see “New Threads” at the bottom of the Forums page. Does that just take us to new threads or will that also let us know when new comments are posted on established threads? At the moment it is not doing anything when I click it.Good questions. What you’re seeing at the bottom there is a key for the icons. So the icon w/the star is labeled “New Threads”.. and if you look through the forum list, the folders w/stars are those w/new threads.
In addition, there is a “Topics” column (you’ll see Topics in gray at the top) and it’ll display numbers like “10 new” etc. Topics are also threads (will probably make that more consistent in the future). If you click that link, it pretty much just takes you to the thread/topic list… and you can see which ones are new (to you.. or actually to your account cookie) by whether they are starred or not.
Hope that helps some.
Edit: Hey, aren’t you the Barbara Harper who used to rib me at BJU about thinking too much and being too intense? Ah, the good old days! :D
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
[Matthew Olmstead]The format is quite adjustable and we probably want to tweak it but subscriptions are not working for me so… hard to tweak. Will have to get my own subs. working first.[Aaron Blumer] Apparently subscriptions are not working for some people. If you’re using them successfully or unsuccessfully please post your experience here. Need to do some troubleshooting.They’re working for me. I’m not a fan of the format, but I had it set to auto-subscribe to threads on which I commented. I received an email listing recent comment titles.
Thx.
I haven’t tried manually subscribing.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
Subscriptions are working for me…kind of. I am getting double and sometimes triple email notifications of the same posts. Although it might have something to do with whether or not the person previews first or whether they go back to edit a post.
Also (and please forgive the confusion as I know others have already asked, but I’m not undersanding the response)…
Do we have anything like the “New Posts” on the old version? I understand that if I click “Forums” I can see which forums have a thread with a new post, but I don’t want to have to read through all the forums to see which ones have new posts. Also, that method only shows the thread with the very latest post, so if I want to see all the threads in that have a new post I have to click on that forum, then look at all the threads, etc. So much work!
Basically I’d like the old “New Posts” back.
Also (and please forgive the confusion as I know others have already asked, but I’m not undersanding the response)…
Do we have anything like the “New Posts” on the old version? I understand that if I click “Forums” I can see which forums have a thread with a new post, but I don’t want to have to read through all the forums to see which ones have new posts. Also, that method only shows the thread with the very latest post, so if I want to see all the threads in that have a new post I have to click on that forum, then look at all the threads, etc. So much work!
Basically I’d like the old “New Posts” back.
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Greg Long, Ed.D. (SBTS)
Pastor of Adult Ministries
Grace Church, Des Moines, IA
Adjunct Instructor
School of Divinity
Liberty University
When I click on any of the ads, I get this message:
You’re seeing this page because the web address (URL) in your browser address line is pointing to a page that does’t exist.
That could be becuse it’s “remembering” a page from SharperIron 2.0 that has been retired (for example, sharperiron.org/forum.php).
It may also be due to the fact that we have not yet brought in the content from before June 1, 2009. That effort is in progress.
Please use a link in the header to find your way to wherever you’d like to go next.
Is the problem on my side or are others experiencing this? (BTW, note “becuse” needs to be fixed.)
You’re seeing this page because the web address (URL) in your browser address line is pointing to a page that does’t exist.
That could be becuse it’s “remembering” a page from SharperIron 2.0 that has been retired (for example, sharperiron.org/forum.php).
It may also be due to the fact that we have not yet brought in the content from before June 1, 2009. That effort is in progress.
Please use a link in the header to find your way to wherever you’d like to go next.
Is the problem on my side or are others experiencing this? (BTW, note “becuse” needs to be fixed.)
[Drake TP] When I click on any of the ads, I get this message:Yep, that’s a bug. Apparenlty the ad urls did not update when the beta version of the new site went live. Newer ads don’t have this problem. It’s just a matter of updating them, which we’ll have completed shortly.
You’re seeing this page because the web address (URL) in your browser address line is pointing to a page that does’t exist.
That could be becuse it’s “remembering” a page from SharperIron 2.0 that has been retired (for example, sharperiron.org/forum.php).
It may also be due to the fact that we have not yet brought in the content from before June 1, 2009. That effort is in progress.
Please use a link in the header to find your way to wherever you’d like to go next.
Is the problem on my side or are others experiencing this? (BTW, note “becuse” needs to be fixed.)
… and will fix becuse too. Good catch on both of these Thanks!
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
Ad links should be fixed now. Holler if any seem to still be broken.
[Greg Long] Subscriptions are working for me…kind of. I am getting double and sometimes triple email notifications of the same posts. Although it might have something to do with whether or not the person previews first or whether they go back to edit a post.Will need a little help getting clear on what’s missing. Was there a column with something in it that isn’t there now or are we talking about a section that listed something that isn’t there now? Didn’t use that myself, so I’m a bit fuzzy on what’s missing.
Also (and please forgive the confusion as I know others have already asked, but I’m not undersanding the response)…
Do we have anything like the “New Posts” on the old version? I understand that if I click “Forums” I can see which forums have a thread with a new post, but I don’t want to have to read through all the forums to see which ones have new posts. Also, that method only shows the thread with the very latest post, so if I want to see all the threads in that have a new post I have to click on that forum, then look at all the threads, etc. So much work!
Basically I’d like the old “New Posts” back.
Edit: turned on the new posts column. That’s probably what you’re talking about. Had that turned off because the query is slow. But if it saves some clicking and page loads, it’s probably quicker overall than not having it there.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
[Aaron Blumer]Here’s what I would invariably do when going to SharperIron. After reaching the home page, I would click the “Forums” link in the upper-right corner. Then I would click the “New Posts” link (kind of in the center of the top section, near where the Search feature was). It would display a list of the latest post for each thread that had a new post since the last time I logged in (at least I think this is what it was doing), with most recent at the top.[Greg Long] Subscriptions are working for me…kind of. I am getting double and sometimes triple email notifications of the same posts. Although it might have something to do with whether or not the person previews first or whether they go back to edit a post.Will need a little help getting clear on what’s missing. Was there a column with something in it that isn’t there now or are we talking about a section that listed something that isn’t there now? Didn’t use that myself, so I’m a bit fuzzy on what’s missing.
Also (and please forgive the confusion as I know others have already asked, but I’m not undersanding the response)…
Do we have anything like the “New Posts” on the old version? I understand that if I click “Forums” I can see which forums have a thread with a new post, but I don’t want to have to read through all the forums to see which ones have new posts. Also, that method only shows the thread with the very latest post, so if I want to see all the threads in that have a new post I have to click on that forum, then look at all the threads, etc. So much work!
Basically I’d like the old “New Posts” back.
Edit: turned on the new posts column. That’s probably what you’re talking about. Had that turned off because the query is slow. But if it saves some clicking and page loads, it’s probably quicker overall than not having it there.
As I said, this was much more convenient than looking through a list of forums to see which ones have new posts. Also, you could have two or three threads in the same forum with new posts, but with the current method you only see the one thread with the most recent post listed. With the old “New Posts” you would see all two or three of those threads listed as having a new post since I last logged in.
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Greg Long, Ed.D. (SBTS)
Pastor of Adult Ministries
Grace Church, Des Moines, IA
Adjunct Instructor
School of Divinity
Liberty University
[Aaron Blumer] [Not that I remember — though my memory is faulty. :) When were you there? I graduated in ‘80 and was Barbara Friend for all but my last semester.
Edit: Hey, aren’t you the Barbara Harper who used to rib me at BJU about thinking too much and being too intense? Ah, the good old days! :D
[Aaron Blumer]Forgive my density, but where is the new posts column?
Edit: turned on the new posts column. That’s probably what you’re talking about. Had that turned off because the query is slow. But if it saves some clicking and page loads, it’s probably quicker overall than not having it there.
[Barbara H.]Oops, this is the second time now I have seen something just after asking about it. Sorry about that! :~[Aaron Blumer]Forgive my density, but where is the new posts column?
Edit: turned on the new posts column. That’s probably what you’re talking about. Had that turned off because the query is slow. But if it saves some clicking and page loads, it’s probably quicker overall than not having it there.
I see now when you click on forums, it will list “1 new” or “6 new” or whatever down the list of the different forums. That does help. It would still be nice, though, to have the one “new posts” button mentioned above.
[Greg Long] Here’s what I would invariably do when going to SharperIron. After reaching the home page, I would click the “Forums” link in the upper-right corner. Then I would click the “New Posts” link (kind of in the center of the top section, near where the Search feature was). It would display a list of the latest post for each thread that had a new post since the last time I logged in (at least I think this is what it was doing), with most recent at the top.Ah! I think I see now. Never noticed that was there!
As I said, this was much more convenient than looking through a list of forums to see which ones have new posts. Also, you could have two or three threads in the same forum with new posts, but with the current method you only see the one thread with the most recent post listed. With the old “New Posts” you would see all two or three of those threads listed as having a new post since I last logged in.
This sounds like something pretty easily built though. I’ll have to get in touch maybe via email to hash out more details. Sounds like you used it often enough to help me reproduce it pretty closely.
Sounds like this is what Barbara is talking about also.
Personally, I don’t find it difficult to scroll down the page and see what’s got new posts, but happy to accommodate when possible.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
[Matthew Olmstead] In the foundry under recent posts I click the post title (not the thread title). If the post is on the first page, it takes me to the post. If, however, the post is on the second page (not on the first page) it takes me to the top of the first page.Right now looks like this is not fixable. The problem is that the Foundry searches the database for new posts but it doesn’t currently have any way of knowing what page they’re on. So the link attempts to take you to post number X after taking you to page one of the thread it’s in. Since it’s not on page one, just stays at the top.
One alternative is create a single-post view and the link would take you there (vBulletin did something like this) but there’s not all that much advantage since you’re not really in the thread at that point and have to click a thread link to get there.
It’ll go on the “hope to correct someday” list though and I’ll plan to poll the brains at drupal.org to see if anyone’s got ideas.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
If I remember right, you used to be able to get back to the Foundry from within a thread, and it doesn’t appear to be possible now. I liked being able to do that.
Edited to add - Ok, maybe it’s just not all threads! I just saw that I could access it from some, but not all for some reason. Strange…maybe it’s just me!
Edited to add - Ok, maybe it’s just not all threads! I just saw that I could access it from some, but not all for some reason. Strange…maybe it’s just me!
[Teri Ploski] If I remember right, you used to be able to get back to the Foundry from within a thread, and it doesn’t appear to be possible now. I liked being able to do that.Are you talking about getting back to Foundry using the back button? That would depend on how you got to the thread I think.
Edited to add - Ok, maybe it’s just not all threads! I just saw that I could access it from some, but not all for some reason. Strange…maybe it’s just me!
But the Foundry link doesn’t display to the right in all threads at present. I’m pretty sure that can be done, though.
Edit: actually it should be showing on pretty much all of ‘em. Next time you see one w/o it, can you post the url here? Will take a look at what might be preventing the display of the menu in those threads.
Internet Explorer updated this weekend, and now SI doesn’t work for me in IE.
Susan, I got into SI and wrote this post in IE8; are you sure it’s the browser and not something else?
"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells
[Jay C] Susan, I got into SI and wrote this post in IE8; are you sure it’s the browser and not something else?Hmmmm- I was assuming it had something to do with IE updating, since SI worked for me in IE until then. It works fine for me in Firefox. Will do some checking around…
ETA: I closed the browser and logged back in, then came to SI and TA-DA! Working fine now. Weird.
[Susan R]There is a CSS issue with both IE and Opera currently. Both of these browsers have trouble processing the layers of css we’re using at the site right now. Normally, should work OK as long as we have “compression” turned on. But once in a while we have to turn it off to edit something then turn it back on.
Hmmmm- I was assuming it had something to do with IE updating, since SI worked for me in IE until then. It works fine for me in Firefox. Will do some checking around…
ETA: I closed the browser and logged back in, then came to SI and TA-DA! Working fine now. Weird.
Plan is to eventually streamline the theme so this is not a problem. …but it really is not our bug. It’s IE (and to a lesser degree, Opera I think… haven’t tested as much).
Count me in as another one who really misses the New Posts column. It was the only way I read the site. I hope it can be reconstructed. Thanks.
[Ann B.] Count me in as another one who really misses the New Posts column. It was the only way I read the site. I hope it can be reconstructed. Thanks.The new posts column is in the main Forum view now. What we don’t have yet is a view that lists all threads w/new posts. Working on that one.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
[SharperIron3.0]The Foundry button doesn’t show up when I first log in and I’m at my profile page. I think (but I’m not 100% sure) that it’s showing up everywhere else though.[Teri Ploski] If I remember right, you used to be able to get back to the Foundry from within a thread, and it doesn’t appear to be possible now. I liked being able to do that.Are you talking about getting back to Foundry using the back button? That would depend on how you got to the thread I think.
Edited to add - Ok, maybe it’s just not all threads! I just saw that I could access it from some, but not all for some reason. Strange…maybe it’s just me!
But the Foundry link doesn’t display to the right in all threads at present. I’m pretty sure that can be done, though.
Edit: actually it should be showing on pretty much all of ‘em. Next time you see one w/o it, can you post the url here? Will take a look at what might be preventing the display of the menu in those threads.
[Aaron Blumer] The new posts column is in the main Forum view now. What we don’t have yet is a view that lists all threads w/new posts. Working on that one.That’s what I’ll be looking forward to. Thanks -
The new posts view is a bit tricky but just found about a workaround that should meet the need pretty well until the ‘real deal’ can be built.
Unfortunately, I’ll be tied up for a couple of days, but I think we shd have it up by end of week or early next.
Unfortunately, I’ll be tied up for a couple of days, but I think we shd have it up by end of week or early next.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
[Aaron Blumer] The new posts view is a bit tricky but just found about a workaround that should meet the need pretty well until the ‘real deal’ can be built.Bro Aaron, thanks for serving. These are conveniences for us, in a blog venue that we all freely (literally) enjoy. We are very spoiled.
Unfortunately, I’ll be tied up for a couple of days, but I think we shd have it up by end of week or early next.
"I pray to God this day to make me an extraordinary Christian." --Whitefield http://strengthfortoday.wordpress.com
[Diane Heeney]I agree wholeheartedly with Diane’s comment. I do not take for granted your work on this site.[Aaron Blumer] The new posts view is a bit tricky but just found about a workaround that should meet the need pretty well until the ‘real deal’ can be built.Bro Aaron, thanks for serving. These are conveniences for us, in a blog venue that we all freely (literally) enjoy. We are very spoiled.
Unfortunately, I’ll be tied up for a couple of days, but I think we shd have it up by end of week or early next.
I can’t see the latest Filings (the article on Cavlinism). Also, there a gray-scale text over that posting on the frontpage that says “Unpublished.” Not sure what’s going on.
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[Matthew Olmstead] I can’t see the latest Filings (the article on Cavlinism). Also, there a gray-scale text over that posting on the frontpage that says “Unpublished.” Not sure what’s going on.Looks like that has been resolved
Do posts / comments made under Church & Ministry Matters appear under Recent Comments on the Foundry page?
It doesn’t appear they do.
It doesn’t appear they do.
[T Howard] Do posts / comments made under Church & Ministry Matters appear under Recent Comments on the Foundry page?Comments do. Currently, new threads do not appear in the Foundry until someone posts a comment. That problem is on known issues list and will be corrected soon.
It doesn’t appear they do.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
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