Dr. Ergun Caner called as Provost and Vice President of Academic Affairs at Arlington Baptist College

Why would you pick someone to head up your academic affairs someone who is known for lying?

Not to be left out of the news, his brother Emir decided to bash A29.

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/05/17/twitter-sla…

it wasn’t lying, it was speaking evangelistically (sic)

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Raised as the son of a devout Muslim, Caner converted to Christianity along with his two brothers.

actually raised by his mother in Ohio after his parents divorced. Glad to see that they didn’t include anything more about his early life as his version is a complete fabrication.

[attributed to Tim Lee] They could not have made a better choice.

Surely you can’t be serious!

I, for one, am disappointed in Lee.

Actually, the true story about Caner’s childhood and testimony is in the front of his first book and does not exaggerate or in any way lie. This book was published long before his alleged statements that some Muslims and some Hyper Calvinists have claimed were lies. Interesting that one who pushed this attack was a Hyper Calvinist who’s whole ministry career has been a lie as he claims a doctor degree from a store front seminary. That has been a continuing lie for him. Several moderate Calvinists defended Ergun Caner. However, it is surprising that he would take a position at this school. He is a good man with a powerful testimony.

Both Caner brothers have Muslim backgrounds and their upbringing was Muslim. Some were dismayed at the viciuos nature of the attacks by some Calvinists when the accusations against Caner occurred. The accusations were originally made by a Muslim on the internet. Some Calvinists attempted to use the accusations to discredit Ergun Caner who had spoken out repeatedly in opposition to Hyper Calvinism. It must be remembered that strong Calvinism (or Hyper) does come from a history that involved executions, wars, witch trials, and other vicious attacks. It is a theology that seems to generate unwarranted militancy against those who may disagree.

We who are recipients of unmerited grace and forgiveness need to show such grace and forgiveness in our judgment of others. We must refrain from exaggerations, and ungracious attitudes and seek to be ready for acceptance of restoration when it is merited. There are times when the unrighteous judgmental conduct by some is far worse than the sin they are trying to expose and judge.

[Bob T.] Both Caner brothers have Muslim backgrounds and their upbringing was Muslim.

After their parent’s divorce they lived with their mother who, from the evidence, was not Muslim.

Ergun was not raised in majority Muslim countries, he did not come to the US as a teenager, he did not http://www.libertystudentnews.com/?p=505] debate Shabir Ally even once, much less twice, and not even http://youtu.be/qQk4b1XTI54] in Nebraska .

[Bob T.] Interesting that one who pushed this attack was a Hyper Calvinist who’s whole ministry career has been a lie as he claims a doctor degree from a store front seminary. That has been a continuing lie for him.

Interesting that this man has http://www.aomin.org/results.html?cx=015138337201457149671%3Adhrmihpmjl…] actually debated Shabir Ally , and there is audio and http://youtu.be/h2ExRoIvuzIvideo] available of his debates!

[Bob T.] He is a good man with a powerful testimony.

a powerful testimony that is mostly a lie!

Bob, I think you are confused as to who the real liar is!

John, Read his first book and get his testimony. It’s as simple and clear as that.

Bob T,

His testimony is available in audio and video all over the internet, so it’s not necessary to read his book.

But if in fact his book gives a different version of his testimony than the version he has told since 9/11, it just proves that the recent version of his testimony is manufactured (read a huge lie).

video of White from today’s (tuesday) program - http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=4648] Evangelist Tim Lee on Ergun Caner’s “Misstatements

http://fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/06/tv-news-report-in-dallasft-w… TV News Report in Dallas/Ft. Worth Exposes Caner - FBC Jax Parents, Don’t be Fooled Again

according to Caner’s father’s http://www.witnessesuntome.com/caner/Acar_Caner_Naturalization_duplicat…] Application for a new naturalization or citizenship , the family arrived in the USA on Sept 13, 1969 (#4).

Also notice (#8) that the father wrote “none” in answer to the question about being absent from the US since July 13, 1976.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergun_Caner] wikipedia Caner was born on 3 November 1966.

Here are the facts based on this evidence:

1. 11/03/66 - birth
2. 09/13/69 - Came to America prior to his 3rd birthday (unless his parents left him in the country they lived in prior to coming to the USA)
3. 09/13/69 - 07/13/76 - Possibility that there was travel between the US and some other country.
4. 07/13/76 - after this date (and before the above document was submitted in 1981) the family did not leave the US. Caner was not yet 10 years old!

Conclusion:

Any testimony of Caner that references him coming to America as a teenager and having been raised in majority Muslim countries is a LIE!

Here is the current format of the http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/n-565.pdf] N-565 document

FBC Jax Watchdog wonders why Caner doesn’t want his sermons podcast!

http://fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/07/it-has-been-requested-that-w… “It Has Been Requested that We Not Podcast Ergun Caner’s Messages” Says Brookwood Church in North Carolina.

His http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergun_Caner] wikipedia page relates some of the controversy about his testimony, and is:

…currently protected from editing until July 31, 2011 or until disputes have been resolved.

If a man has told the truth about where he was born and raised, why would there be disputes about those facts!

In http://vanderkok.posterous.com/102911-ergun-caner-the-secret-of-islam] this audio beginning at the 15:02 mark Caner states

And when I first came to America in 1969, and Emir was born in 1970 …

Finally he is telling the truth - that he came to America before or shortly after his 3rd birthday and not as a teenager!

http://youtu.be/JdANhgT7r1g] Debate Challenge to Caner

Don’t hold your breath waiting for this debate!