Jerry Falwell Jr. emerges as possible Trump cabinet pick

"Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. visited Trump Tower in New York City last Thursday to meet with the president-elect... Falwell declined to confirm or rule out whether he was being vetted as secretary of education but told the newspaper he will 'definitely play a role' in the Trump administration." BNG

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Steve Newman's picture

I wouldn't nominate him for dog-catcher!

Jay's picture

This doesn't make any sense at all.  Does Falwell even hold a legitimate Ph. D, or is it honorary?

​I'm beginning to wonder if President-elect Trump is meeting with people just to fog up the press's reporting and speculations.

"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells

Larry Nelson's picture

Jay wrote:

This doesn't make any sense at all.  Does Falwell even hold a legitimate Ph. D, or is it honorary?

 

"Falwell attended private schools in the Lynchburg area, attending Lynchburg Christian Academy, where he graduated in 1980, and attended Liberty University, where he obtained his B.A. in Religious Studies in 1984. Falwell then attended the University of Virginia School of Law, where he obtained his J.D. in 1987.

Falwell is licensed by the Commonwealth of Virginia to practice law in Virginia, United States District Courts in both Eastern and Western districts of Virginia, the Fourth Circuit of the United States Court of Appeals, and before the Supreme Court of the United States."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell_Jr

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"He attended Liberty Christian Academy (formerly known as Lynchburg Christian Academy) and Liberty University, graduating in 1984 with a Bachelor of Arts in Religious Studies and History. He obtained his Juris Doctor degree from the University of Virginia School of Law and was licensed to practice law in 1987."

http://www.liberty.edu/aboutliberty/index.cfm?PID=14588

GregH's picture

Isn't this just typical politics as usual? You have to take care of the people that got you elected. Falwell as president of the world's largest Christian university was sadly one of Trump's biggest tools he used to seduce and deceive evangelicals. Gotta return the favor.

Bert Perry's picture

Really, apart from Bannon, most of Trump's appointments have been pretty shrewd.  Falwell was a "useful idiot" during the primaries, but given that very issue, I don't see him finding a place for Falwell.  I could be wrong.  Falwell has a real, earned doctorate ("juris doctor" is what "JD" means, after all), ahd he's got a decent history (at least until last year) leading Liberty into the big leagues of colleges.  But I just don't see what he would add in DC.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

DLCreed's picture

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Scary...

I wouldn't nominate him for dog-catcher!<<<

 

...for a minute there, I had to check to make sure I wasn't reading the comments from Huffington Post.

Vitriol much?

 

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Actually, I wondered about whether he may have been promised something before the election.  ?????

Dr. Paul Henebury

I am Founder of Telos Ministries, and Senior Pastor at Agape Bible Church in N. Ca.

Bert Perry's picture

DLCreed wrote:

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Scary...

I wouldn't nominate him for dog-catcher!<<<

...for a minute there, I had to check to make sure I wasn't reading the comments from Huffington Post.

Vitriol much?

How could it be the HP without a string of obscenities and sexual references?  :^)  

Seriously, I have had to wonder, with Paul, whether there were bribes involved in some of these cases.  The Babylon Bee certainly pondered this, repeatedly.  And the reality here is that on both sides of the aisle, the candidates had some flaws were pretty obvious, so no matter who you ask, you're going to get some strong opinions--there are not that many people who unapologetically voted for Mrs. Clinton, and probably even fewer who did the same for Mr. Trump.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

TylerR's picture

Editor

Will it happen? Who knows. Maybe Secretary of Education!

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist?

Jay's picture

I think that if 2016 has proven anything, it's that all the norms and regular options are null and void.  We're in what someone described as cloud-cuckoo-land.

"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells

DLCreed's picture

Bert Perry wrote:

DLCreed wrote:

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Scary...

I wouldn't nominate him for dog-catcher!<<<

...for a minute there, I had to check to make sure I wasn't reading the comments from Huffington Post.

Vitriol much?

How could it be the HP without a string of obscenities and sexual references?  :^)  

Seriously, I have had to wonder, with Paul, whether there were bribes involved in some of these cases.  The Babylon Bee certainly pondered this, repeatedly.  And the reality here is that on both sides of the aisle, the candidates had some flaws were pretty obvious, so no matter who you ask, you're going to get some strong opinions--there are not that many people who unapologetically voted for Mrs. Clinton, and probably even fewer who did the same for Mr. Trump.

True....it doesn't get much worse than HP comments.  JFTR, I was not a Trump supporter and I think Jerry, Jr. made a HUGE error in judgment to endorse him.  I do not for a second think that he made some sort of under-the-table deal with Trump.  But it just seems to me that to use the invectives the OP did (Scary...'dog-catcher', etc...) toward a Christian brother with whom most people here would agree with 90+ percent of the time, seemed a bit beyond the pale.  I actually think it would be a good idea to put an Evangelical on the Supreme Court.  There hasn't been one on there in my lifetime or perhaps ever.  The Elites wouldn't permit it, but right now, 40% of the population is not represented in the make-up of the Supreme Court and there are only Catholics, Jews and Agnostics on there at the moment.  I'd be perfectly happy with Falwell on the Court and then I'll look at my window at the pigs flying by. Biggrin

 

Bert Perry's picture

If it were someone truly committed to the first Fundamental (whether he called himself fundamentalist or not), it could be a great thing, I think.  I have thought for a while that a lot of our legal and societal slide is because the legal doctrine of stare decisis (let the decision stand) is very similar to the Catholic doctrine of the authority of the Church, as well as the Talmudic impulse in Judiasm.  You make mistakes and let them pile up because of the Council of Trent, the Talmud, or whatever.

However, the First Fundamental/Sola Scriptura more or less say, along with Christ, that you can walk away from bad decisions without feeling bad about it.  Not that we fundagelicals always DO correct our mistakes--far from it--but at least it's philosophically tenable if we really believe Sola Scriptura.  So I'd love to see some fundagelicals on the court--my question is simply whether Falwell's legal gifts are sufficient, or whether he's really more of an administrator.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

WallyMorris's picture

As far as Supreme Court, Falwell would never survive the confirmation process.

Secretary of Education? Interesting, since many Christians have wanted to abolish this Dept. since Carter started it.

Another interesting note: Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, was a major factor in Trump's victory over Clinton. Kushner is an observant Orthodox Jew, his wife (Trump's daughter) converted before they married. Yesterday Trump said that his son-in-law could bring peace between Israelis and Palestinians. And Kushner's address is (not kidding) 666 5th Aveneue.

Wally Morris

Charity Baptist Church

Huntington, IN

amomentofcharity.blogspot.com

Larry Nelson's picture

 

"President-elect Donald Trump has picked Betsy DeVos, a top Republican donor and school choice activist, to head the Department of Education, the Trump transition team announced Wednesday.

Trump met with the billionaire donor this weekend at his golf club in New Jersey, where he hosted a slew of potential cabinet appointees. Trump offered DeVos the position on Tuesday and she accepted the same day, one of the officials said."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/23/politics/betsy-devos-picked-for-education-secretary/index.html?adkey=bn

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"DeVos was educated at the Holland Christian High School. She graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan, where she earned a bachelor's degree in business administration and political science."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_DeVos

TylerR's picture

Editor

I was just joking about that, though . . .

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist?

Bert Perry's picture

The DeVos family has been a longtime player in Michigan politics, and this connects Trump with mainstream conservatism and a healthy skepticism of the government schools alike.  I reckon the Democrats will not be happy, and will make that known. 

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Jay's picture

 I reckon the Democrats will not be happy, and will make that known. 

That reminds me of someone's arrogant advice to Eric Cantor:

“I can go it alone but I want to come together. Look at the polls. The polls are pretty good for me right now. … Elections have consequences and Eric, I won.”

Of course, now that the inhabitant of the White House will have an (R) after their name instead of a (D), it's no longer 'advice'.  It's arrogant and hypocritical (or something).

Funny how time changes perspectives, isn't it? 

"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells

Jay's picture

Ben Carson for Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
​Nikki Haley for Ambassador to the UN

Not sure how I feel about Ben Carson for HUD.  It seems like that's kind of out of his wheelhouse, and I don't know if he has the temperament to go to war with people in order to get his policies enacted.

"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells

GregH's picture

I would respect these guys a lot more if they did not accept appointments from the man they used to call a despicable human being in the primaries (they were right).

Of Carson is hard to take seriously for many reasons, most notably his insistence that the pyramids were built by Joseph to store grain.

Bert Perry's picture

GregH wrote:

I would respect these guys a lot more if they did not accept appointments from the man they used to call a despicable human being in the primaries (they were right).

Of Carson is hard to take seriously for many reasons, most notably his insistence that the pyramids were built by Joseph to store grain.

I share your cynicism on how politicians get along together after trashing each other in public; remember how Obama and Mrs. Clinton treated each other in 2008?

Just sayin'. 

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Jay's picture

Apparently Trump actually did offer Falwell the job...I'm glad he turned it down.

Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr says President elect-Donald Trump offered him the job of education secretary, but that he turned it down for personal reasons.

Falwell tells The Associated Press that Trump offered him the job last week during a meeting in New York. He says Trump wanted a four- to six-year commitment, but that he couldn't leave Liberty for more than two years.

Falwell says he couldn't afford to work at a Cabinet-level job for longer than that and didn't want to move his family, especially his 16-year-old daughter.

 

 

 

"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells

Jim's picture

Jay wrote:

Falwell says he couldn't afford to work at a Cabinet-level job for longer than that and didn't want to move his family, especially his 16-year-old daughter.

$ 205,000

TylerR's picture

Editor

I really was ​just joking about the Secretary of Education bit. I guess Trump wasn't . . .

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist?

Larry Nelson's picture

Jim wrote:

Jay wrote:

Falwell says he couldn't afford to work at a Cabinet-level job for longer than that and didn't want to move his family, especially his 16-year-old daughter.

$ 205,000

 

"In Virginia, the highest-paid private university leader was Jerry Falwell Jr. As president of Liberty University in Lynchburg, his compensation was $900,000."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/12/07/survey-32-private-university-presidents-earned-more-than-1-million-in-2013/

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EditorModerator

Jim wrote:

 

Jay wrote:

 

Falwell says he couldn't afford to work at a Cabinet-level job for longer than that and didn't want to move his family, especially his 16-year-old daughter.

 

 

$ 205,000

Obviously, this is a big step down from $900,000, but in all fairness, in Washington D.C., it would be very difficult to afford to raise a family and be there for them.  The median price per square foot is $497.  So for 1000 square feet, you are talking about half a million.  You are either going to pay a fortune to live inside the city in a small home, or you are going to have a very long commute.  I would imagine that a cabinet-level position would require a large amount of overtime, and adding a long commute to that would mean not seeing your family much.  Actually, even if he lived in the city, it would probably mean not seeing your family much, and with a 16-year-old daughter, it's not a good time to never be at home.  I'm betting the money is not the largest issue here, even though it would mean a temporary drop in salary.

Dave Barnhart

Bert Perry's picture

It's not only the cost of living, but also the cost personally--Vince Foster was, after all, correct when he noted in his last writings that ruining people is considered sport in DC.  Really, what needs to happen is for some thick skinned people to go in and figure out some things that DC is really screwing up, and simply stop it--and let a few hundred thousand bureaucrats start looking for private sector employment.  

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Jay's picture

It's not only the cost of living, but also the cost personally

Yeah, I agree with that...let's cut Falwell a little slack here - Trump asked him to not only take a massive pay cut (just under 80%!), but also asked him to uproot his entire life and family (including his 16 year old) to work in a very high stress environment for what could be only 4 years.  That's a lot of stress to put your family under.  And then what does he do if he decides to leave in 2020 or if Trump lost that election?  He can't just go back to LU after a four year absence.

Not to mention that DC is significantly more expensive than VA.

I think I'd refuse the offer too...and that's if I had the desire to try and reform the DOE.  Which I don't.  

"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells

WallyMorris's picture

I wonder why Falwell felt the need to make the job offer public. You turn it down & don't say anything. If people ask, graciously & tactfully don't answer the question.

Wally Morris

Charity Baptist Church

Huntington, IN

amomentofcharity.blogspot.com

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