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Oct
05
2019
"Serving on a pastoral search committee is a tough assignment tasked to church members who may not have interview training or anything to go off other than their personal preferences for a new pastor. As such, most pastors have had their fair share of interesting search committee experiences." - Facts & Trends
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I was asked 2 questions about Sunday by the same man
I was candidating in S Jersey back when:
I said "Yes" to both. He didn't like it but I guess he voted for me
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Good questions
I vaguely remember a few nutty questions in questionnaires I received in the mail. Can't recall examples now, though.
Committees I interviewed with actually asked a lot of really good questions like:
These get to some important "what's having you as a pastor going to be like?" kinds of issues. That last one might seem like a 'gotcha' of some sort, or trivial, but it was neither. He was exploring my sense of proportion, what matters, what doesn't, what matters a lot, what matters a little. That's huge.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
Aaron Blumer wrote:
Answer: Ask if I can go with him...
I presume that was not an answer they were looking for? Because he is.... reformed?
Right answer
I'm not sure what my answer was... but it seemed to be satisfactory. Most likely I communicated that what I believed to be appropriate for worship in church is not the same as what might be fitting for entertainment in other settings, and that I would expect there to be a number of things that I don't do as a matter of conscience that others might do--and probably vise versa--and we should give each other space, so to speak, on these things.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
A guaranteed treatment!
Regarding that last bit, this Babylon Bee "article" somehow seems appropriate.... :^) And this one.
Seriously, enjoying the back & forth here, and it's telling how many of the questions are really more cultural than theological. Nothing on the nature of the hypostatic union, or ..... :^)
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Bert Perry wrote:
I think that's completely normal. It reflects both the fact that churches aren't generally composed of theologians, and the fact that how a pastor deals with more practical and cultural issues has a greater effect on church life than his views on certain theological issues.
We did have a number of theological questions on our questionnaire when we had our last pastoral search. They were generally intended to help us find a pastor who was very close to our theological circles. There were also questions on his views on new evangelicalism vs. conservative evangelicalism, church discipline, preaching, and other areas that would affect day-to-day life in the church. You want a questionnaire to be specific enough to help the church hone in on the right man, without trying to dictate every area of his life and belief, but you also want to get some sense of how church life will change under his leadership (and it always will). You don't want to try to compare the new man with the old, for a number of reasons, but it is a reasonable thing to try to find someone who will preach the word without worrying about whose ox gets gored, while still being someone who will be a reasonable fit with your church's theology, membership and culture.
Dave Barnhart
The Grace Church Candidate Questionnaire
Grace Church Candidate Questionnaire
What do you guys think of this?
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Curious Jim
Has your church voted to hold to the Danvers statement, the Nashville statement, and the Manhattan Declaration?
I only ask because even if I agree with all three, I would not say I hold to any of them because of concern over nuances, but would rather state my simple position.
Has the church voted?
Question: Has the church voted?
Answers:
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We are asking serious questions!
We are asking serious questions!
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Jim Were You Totally Truthful
At the time Jim did you tell them you couldn’t stand the Eagles and that you’d never root for the Phillies to win the World Series.
Jim
I scanned through the 3 statements. I have never read any of them before. You might want to be careful, however. I saw that Paige Patterson signed a couple of them and he is considered evil scumbag number one right now... so I am not sure you would want a person who agreed with him in any way... Apparently Jerry Vines is also a persona non grata as well after Rachel Denhollander's comment at the ERLC conference. You must stay current and relevant with all this stuff sir.
Good questions
I would follow it up with some discussion on the five Fundamentals and the five Solas to get a picture of how the candidate thinks on his feet. Another set of questions I used when interviewing candidates for youth pastor:
What I found was that a lot of guys "had the right answers", but really did not do well thinking on their feet. Given that our young people include the children of Mayo pathologists and IBM engineers, a youth pastor who could not think on his feet could be an immense disaster. Would be a disaster anywhere, but especially here, or in a college town.
Mark also raises the issue of the candidate's approach to "difficult times", and while of course I don't disbelieve everything that Paige Patterson or Jerry Vines believes (I agree with them a lot, actually, and I'd bet so does Mrs. Denhollander), it is good to have someone who does take things like sexual assault seriously.
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My Eagles story - Super Bowl XV
My Eagles story -Super Bowl XV
I directed the young adult (basically post-college singles up to about 30) ministry. I wanted to have a Super Bowl party at the house. The church said we couldn't skip the evening service. I understood and did not protest. [This was back in the day BEFORE people commonly owned VCRs!]. I rented a VCR and set it up to record the Super Bowl (which commenced about the time the evening service started). All young people agreed to keep radios off ... we would wait until we got to the house and then watch the SB. (One guy had a pocket radio with an ear bud up in the balcony ... he was aware of the blowout unfolding)
So after the evening service, about 30+ kids arrived at the house at about halftime. It was an Oakland blowout.
We never even watched the SB from the beginning. Just enjoyed the food and fellowship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XV
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Jim wrote:
Personally, I would leave the question about salary requirements off, and talk about that if there's actually enough interest after the questionnaire to have him come candidate.
And, except in the case where the prospective pastor has a wife with a good job that includes health insurance (and you would be OK with her continuing that while her husband is the pastor), you can pretty much expect the prospective pastor to need health insurance.
Your questionnaire has fewer of the doctrinal/cultural questions than ours did, but you cover a good portion of that ground with your questions about the various Statements and Declarations.
Though I wouldn't know exactly how to rephrase it, your question on "cause for rumor" is a bit unclear.
Dave Barnhart
The salary question and the 'rumor' question
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Comments inline.
Comments inline.
Dave Barnhart
On expectations for pastors' wives
It strikes me that a church which wants the pastor's wife to spend a lot of time every week "doing church things" ought to adjust the pastor's salary accordingly. OK, yes, "dream on", I know, and a bit off topic, but there is a lesson to be learned here.
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See 3 circles
There's the ideal ... and the reality.
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4 tranches
4 tranches:
We practiced on the application and found that fairly easy to complete
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