What Should the Duggar Scandal Teach the Church?

Jim and JC you are confusing me with JoeB. I didn’t accuse the Duggars of legalism and the Duggars being hypocrites. In all of my posts, which are only a few, I have refrained from any name calling whatsoever. The only thing that I have insinuated was that there was a coverup with the authorities. Nothing else. Please check the posts more carefully before you accuse me of being a troll and going beyond the pale and other stuff.

Agreed that JoeB needs to go somewhere else. It is just pathetic.

C’mon, Jim and JC, look a little more carefully. JoeB (who uses only the first initial of his last name, has no picture, and has a writing style that leaves much to be desired) isn’t hard to distinguish from Joel Shaffer (who uses his entire last name, has a picture, and writes clearly).

Sorry for the confusion Joel. It is JoeB that needs to go.

[Joel Shaffer]

Jim and JC you are confusing me with JoeB. I didn’t accuse the Duggars of legalism and the Duggars being hypocrites. In all of my posts, which are only a few, I have refrained from any name calling whatsoever. The only thing that I have insinuated was that there was a coverup with the authorities. Nothing else. Please check the posts more carefully before you accuse me of being a troll and going beyond the pale and other stuff.

[jimcarwest]

JOEL: your discussion of the Duggar topic has clearly gone beyond the pale. You have begun to make personal attacks on the Duggars and by inference on other parties to the discussion. Your recent rant clearly shows this. I copy here to demonstrate my point. I recommend you drop the argument because of your demeaning statements. You seem to be incapable of discussing a topic without taking it to the personal level. In my opinion this is not what SharperIron is all about.

“Josh Duggar resigns from Family Research Council after sexual abuse allegations” - - - - =JC and Mark= If the opinion of Joel me and these young ladies is something in dispute than you have sided on the wrong side. This is clear as a man who robs a Bank and commits murder in the process and the evidence is overwhelming that he did it. Mark is obviously a big home schooler who would most likely look down in judgment of me or any other christian sending their children to public school. That’s christianity by rules ie legalism. The Duggars are hypocrites. They practice the same legalism that It appears Mark practices. What Jim Bob Did and the church elders did with Josh is wrong sinful and criminal. Just because they escaped Justice like OJ Simpson did does not change what they did. Sean Hannity made the comment at least Josh was not gay. Again I say I wish he was gay at least no innocents would have been harmed. You talk like Josh did not do what he did. He admitted it it. The facts are not in dispute. The issue to me is are fundemental Baptist Christians going to stop living by rules. How long is her skirt. We can’t have boys and girls swimming together. They can’t kiss until their engaged. They can’t listen to music. These are spirituality by rules that’s what the Duggars and Gothards whole operation runs by. Look where that got Gothard and the Duggars. If anything Gothard and the Duggars have driven people away from Christ. You say sharper iron is bad. I say Sharper iron is allowing the right edge to be out on the sword for fundemental Baptist Christians so they don’t let legalism dominate their lives and serve the Lord out of love not hate. I know our country is under attack by Satan and as voters and American citizens we should vote our hearts and stand up for or rights but that does not mean you spew hate at everyone. I saw a sign on a Christian Korean church on my way home it said Don’t just talk Christ walk Christ. The Duggars have clearly only talked not walked. When your spewing hate about gays and have been a serial child sex abuser yourself. That’s hypocritical. If anything he should have a loving heart toward gays since Josh himself struggled and seek to love them and lead them to the Lord. Christ can change all things and his Holy Spirit can convict and change lives. This is what Billy Graham believed and practiced.

JC and JIm,

No Problem……