Dallas pastor defends claim that Obama has paved the way for antichrist
“ ‘I don’t sit around in my office thinking up controversies. But I do use controversy to shine the light on Jesus Christ,’ Jeffress, the pastor of the 11,000-member First Baptist Church of Dallas, said Thursday (Jan. 9).” Baptist Press
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Does this kind of pastoral politicking “shine the light on Jesus Christ”?
I’d defend any pastor’s duty to apply Scripture to political issues. But publishing a book claiming, among other things, that Obama is helping bring in the antichrist … I’m not sure Jesus Christ is where the light is landing.
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Obama’s a better person than many of our past Presidents:
- Re comparisons … when we compare ourselves to Christ … we are hopelessly wicked! That being said …
- It appears that President Obama is a much more moral person than say President Kennedy (and frankly aside from his moral failures I consider him a relative effective President (in his short 1000 days))
- LBJ …. reading the Robert Caro quadrilogy The Years of Lyndon Johnson … had some serious ethical lapses
That being said .. I don’t think President Obama has “paved way for anti-Christ”. The anti-Christ will enter stage right (or left) accordingn to God’s sovereign plan!
Obama supports homosexual marriage, amnesty for illegal aliens, limiting gun rights, forced Obamacare on us, doesn’t seem to have a clue as to what goes on in his administration, etc. In what way is Obama an effective president?
[christian cerna] In what way is Obama an effective president?
He’s not!
But not agreeing he is ushering in anti-Christ!
John the baptist spoke out against Herod’s immoral lifestyle. Was John wrong for criticizing a God-appointed public official?
[christian cerna]John the baptist spoke out against Herod’s immoral lifestyle. Was John wrong for criticizing a God-appointed public official?
According to Mark 6:18-19, John did so to Herod in a face-to-face confrontation, not in a public forum.
"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan
[Ron Bean]Ron,christian cerna wrote:
John the baptist spoke out against Herod’s immoral lifestyle. Was John wrong for criticizing a God-appointed public official?
According to Mark 6:18-19, John did so to Herod in a face-to-face confrontation, not in a public forum.
Do you think that is a prescriptive formula?
Why is it that my voice always seems to be loudest when I am saying the dumbest things?
- Category 1: denouncing immorality by public officials
- Category 2: claiming public officials use of power links them to the prophetic end-times embodiment of evil
These are two different things.
From a results standpoint, sure, public confrontation of leaders’ moral evil might well—in our society—not draw attention to the gospel either. So I don’t want to reduce the whole question to a results test. But are prophetic details—and speculative links to them by current leaders—really worth hazarding public backlash and distracting controversy?
There seems to be little to gain in any case. Even if a particular president or other world leader (why should the US Pres. be important in ref. to antichrist as opposed to, say, the top guy in Russia or China or Iraq?) in some way encourages shifts in political thought that make it easier for the future world ruler to dominate, so what? We are not taught in the Bible that we should pursue policy that makes world dominance (by a man Scripture clearly identifies as supernaturally empowered) more difficult.
My point is that the question of Obama’s use of power, the merits and demerits of increased executive branch dominance, etc. have nothing whatsoever to do with end times prophecies. There are completely different (and far more persuasive) arguments that relate to that set of questions.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
Aaron, how do you know that Obama’s policies have nothing to do with end time prophesies? Every act in history is affected/influenced by the ones that preceded it. Do you really think that the actions of the most powerful man on Earth, will not in some way set the precedent for those who are to follow?
Last I understood from Acts 1:7, it was God who had fixed the time in which the end times will take place. I think we give way too much credit to man for initialing what is truly the responsibility of God.
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