Bauder: "it is difficult to see how Christians and Mormons can stand together for marriage at all"

Amen brother.

Mohler is a false teacher. He wants to introduce the idea of Ecumenism.

That is a very ill-informed statement.

Dr. Bauder’s got a very strong argument and point here. I hope that he is able to get a copy of this Nick to Dr. Mohler.

Well said Dr. Bauder.

I am admittedly a fan of Dr. Mohler, but Dr. Bauder makes some great points in this article. Thank you.

At the end of the day, I think it is a mistake to say of Mormons that “We stand together for the natural family, for natural marriage, for the integrity of sexuality within marriage alone, and for the hope of human flourishing.”

The common opponent Mohler was taking on in the speech, as I understood it, was homosexual or same-sex marriage. I understand that, as Kevin put it, “Salt Lake City Mormons have abandoned the practice of public polygamy.” But even if some were “on the fence,” if you will, what is it about the statement that Bauder quotes Mohler that would be undermined by polygamy or the sealed marriage position he speaks of? Whatever else, I don’t know of any allowances in LDS theology for homosexuality. It seems to me Mohler’s statement does not say that they together affirm Biblical marriage.

Albert Mohler is a false teacher like John Macarthur. John Macarthur teaches that it is OK to receive the mark of the beast.

Christian:

A false teacher teaches a false gospel:

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed (Gal 1:8-9)

I understand that you strongly disagree with both men, but surely you cannot substantiate that they both teach a false Gospel. They each affirm the fundamentals of the faith, as well.

This is the matter to which CC is apparently referring to…

Unforgivable?

That article distorts the scripture’s plain meaning. Those who receive the mark of the beast are forever sealed for damnation. When God’s wrath is poured upon the Earth during the last days, the time of repentance will be over. It will be judgment time. Those who receive the mark and worship the beast will have their hearts hardened. They will be unable to repent. They will persecute the true believers and put them to death, doing atrocious things to them. Unbelievers will be cursing God for all the misery and pain that is being poured upon them. No where do I see anything about unbelievers with the mark repenting and turning to God.

The finer points of eschatology are the third rail of Christian fellowship. Let us return to Dr. Mohler and Mormonism!

CC:

As Tyler has already observed, it is one thing to disagree with the position, even strongly so. It is another thing completely to call someone a false teacher based solely on the conclusion of the interpretation of this specific text.

For that matter, you are calling someone a false teacher who has nothing immediately to do with the topic at hand, which is Mohler, Mormons, and Marriage, not MacArthur and the Mark. Mohler and MacArthur don’t even share the same eschatological positions.

[Greg Linscott]

CC:

For that matter, you are calling someone a false teacher who has nothing immediately to do with the topic at hand, which is Mohler, Mormons, and Marriage, not MacArthur and the Mark. Mohler and MacArthur don’t even share the same eschatological positions.

[PLewis] Your second paragraph is a fine example of alliteration … :-)

[Greg Linscott]

CC:

For that matter, you are calling someone a false teacher who has nothing immediately to do with the topic at hand, which is Mohler, Mormons, and Marriage, not MacArthur and the Mark. Mohler and MacArthur don’t even share the same eschatological positions.

PLewis,

Your meticulous monitoring of my miniscule manuscript is marvelous. ;)