On Laying Up Treasures
Among the recent criticisms of Bob Jones University, one of the strangest is that the university’s teachers are poorly paid. One critic even prepared a chart showing faculty salaries from independent four-year colleges and universities throughout South Carolina, locating Bob Jones University at the bottom of the salary scale. The (anonymous) critic took this lack of munificence as such an obvious scandal as not even to require comment.
Plenty could be said about the survey itself. Comparisons of this sort are rarely as helpful (or, in this case, as damaging) as they are meant to be. The variables are simply too significant for direct evaluations to be made.
A larger issue is at stake, however. The fact is that the published salaries at Bob Jones University are not greatly out of line with faculty salaries at most Fundamentalist institutions of higher learning (especially if regional cost of living is taken into account). Professors in Fundamentalist institutions are paid far less than their peers in comparable secular colleges and universities.
This situation extends further than just Fundamentalism. Many broadly evangelical schools do not pay their professors much more. I have degrees from two large, evangelical seminaries. In one of those institutions, a tenured professor told one of my classes that, in order to support his family, he had to make $10,000 to $15,000 of outside income every year. A recent reporting instrument shows that institution paying an average salary of only $25,000 per year, less than the reported average for the Bob Jones faculty.
While average salaries are low for Christian professors, they can be even lower for pastors. Many pastors receive no more compensation than professors at Bob Jones. In fact, many receive substantially less. Smaller churches frequently offer salary packages that virtually require pastors (or their spouses) to work outside jobs.
The people who take these positions—these professorships and pastorates—are obviously not taking them for the money. Some other concern is in play. That concern can be expressed in various ways: ministry, serving the Lord, the care of souls. Jesus called it “laying up treasures in heaven.”
When I was thirteen years old, my father left his management position with a major airline to go to Bible college. Over the next several years I watched my parents live by faith, dividing time between schooling, work, family, and, eventually, ministry. In time, I saw my father take pastoral positions without ever asking what his compensation would be. He was convinced that, if he trusted the Lord, then God would supply our needs. God did.
Years later, my own college complete, I attended seminary at an institution where salaries were not only low, they were regularly in arrears. My professors went and found second jobs so that they could continue their ministries in the classroom. These were talented, bright individuals with good educations. They could have gone elsewhere and made plenty of money. But they were committed to the ministry that the Lord had given them. As they saw it, they were serving the Lord. They were caring for souls. They were laying up treasure in heaven.
Episodes like these have affected me deeply. It does something to you when you know that your professor spent the previous night working as a janitor so that he could have the opportunity to be in class teaching you in the morning. Consequently, I am aware that my education is not simply a product that I have purchased, much less an entitlement. It has been given to me as a gift by men and women who have made willing sacrifices, partly because of their love for the Lord, and partly because of their hopes for me. What I have received is something like a trust, committed to me in the hope that I would be able to communicate it to others in turn. To misuse this gift for personal advancement or worldly gain would be a betrayal of the trust.
Not that I am an ascetic. Far from it. I am grateful, not only for the daily provision of needs, but also for a fair number of creature comforts. These I take as additional gifts with which God has seen fit to entrust me. These material things are good, and I rejoice in them. They are not, however, the reason that I choose to minister.
Now, I am embarrassed to have spent these past paragraphs talking about myself. The point is not that I am a wonderful person (much as I wish that were true!). The point is that my own life has been irrevocably altered and bettered by people who did exactly what the faculty at Bob Jones University is doing. By virtue of their sacrifice, I have been made immeasurably richer in the ways that matter most.
What I am trying to do is to describe the attitude that leads highly talented and educated people to settle for salaries that the carnally-minded see as laughable. As a teenager, I saw this attitude in my parents. As a student, I saw it in my professors. As president of Central Seminary, I saw it in colleagues (both staff and faculty) who petitioned me to lower their compensation so that the seminary could prosper.
Because I have been an administrator, I also understand the responsibility that an institution bears toward such self-sacrificing people. Precisely because they can be taken advantage of so easily, they are a sacred trust. God will hold the institution and its leaders responsible for their treatment. My sympathies are with every administrator who struggles with decisions about raising salaries versus meeting other institutional concerns. Professors are not well served if they receive higher compensation (which they surely deserve) for a year, only to see their institution close its doors.
I celebrate the professors at Bob Jones University whose lives do not consist in the abundance of their possessions. I rejoice over teachers like them in Christian institutions all over the country, teachers for whom ministry is more important than wealth. I honor and esteem pastors who sacrifice personal financial prosperity in order to shepherd souls. These people truly are laying up treasure in heaven.
Lord of the Worlds Above
Isaac Watts (1674-1748)
Lord of the worlds above,
How pleasant and how fair
The dwellings of thy love,
Thine earthly temples, are:
To thine abode my heart aspires,
With warm desires to see my God.
O happy souls that pray
Where God appoints to hear!
O happy men that pay
Their constant service there!
They praise thee still; and happy they
That love the way to Zion’s hill.
They go from strength to strength,
Through this dark vale of tears,
Till each arrives at length,
Till each in heav’n appears:
O glorious seat, where God, our King,
Shall thither bring our willing feet!
God is our Sun and Shield,
Our Light and our Defense;
With gifts his hands are filled;
We draw our blessings thence.
Thrice happy he, O God of hosts,
Whose spirit trusts alone in thee.
Kevin T. Bauder Bio
This essay is by Dr. Kevin T. Bauder, who serves as Research Professor of Systematic Theology at Central Baptist Theological Seminary (Plymouth, MN). Not every professor, student, or alumnus of Central Seminary necessarily agrees with every opinion that it expresses.
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I have been in the ministry for 38 years, 35 of which involve Chriistian education. I have senior pastored for 37 years. Having read all these posts, TBD
seems to have been where I have observed and served.
My first opportunity to join full time ministry was declined by me becasue I wanted nothing to do with a Chriistian school. That was way back in 1973. Since then, I have had almost nothing to do with but be part of a Christian school. I am a super advocate of Christian ed. I am a one year principal of a
Christian school now. My term is up at the end of May. I took this post to fill in until a much more seasoned administrator than myself comes here. Praise the Lord, June is coming. Also, no church was interested in me even interviewing for the pastoral position. I was even turned down by boards I didn’t know my name was given to. Imagine, getting a thanks, but no thanks letter from a church you did not know you were interested in. Cool.
The truth is, it always hurt me that our school staff had to financially sacrifice way beyond myself, except for my own financial sutpitity. The economics of paying what they were worth, because of our interest in providing an opportunity for parents to send their children to our Christian schools, plus the fear of pricing ourselves out of existence, did not allow us to pay what we wished we could pay.
I did not, however, feel our teachers were carnal or unspiritual if they felt they needed to go somewhere else and teach, even in a public school, or choose a different vocation to meet the needs of their families.
I will also say, if our teacher did not recieve raises, neither did I. One could say that should be easy because I was already the highest paid person on staff since I was the pastor. Well, the last church I pastored, I was also the principal, had no compensation for that, plus went the last five years without any pay increase, but did lose some annual income.
I have always wished our church would have co-oped with other like churches for the school which I think would have enhanced the opportunities of both staff and young people alike. The school board did not want that.
The pastor and board members of theses types of ministries could at least imagine themselves sitting in the shoes of these servants of God teachers and give to them once in a while, and make them public examples of Godly believers for our churches to honor them as some of God’s special servants. Remember, they are training our children.
As I recall the potential which was the hallmark of the movement 30 years ago with how that potential has been squandered, my heart breaks. Sheffy’s grief over the decline of the old tent revival meetings has a depth of meaning for me now. I see too many pastors and leaders who are more concerned about money, influence, position, power, and control than they are about ministry to people. People have become the means to an end rather than the end. Dedicated servants of the Lord have been used and abused to build “ministries” with plush facilities and impressive programs, but when their human resources were exhausted and depleted, those same people who gave the most and worked the hardest sacrificing their lives, themselves, and sometimes their families are tossed aside like empty cans. They serve no more purpose. They step down and retire … worn out and used up with little to show for it except social security—and if they were fortunate—a SELF-FUNDED retirement with few, if any matching “employer contributions.” Yet they consider it all worth it; a testimony to their servant spirits and their love for the Lord.
Such is not ministry, it is “spiritual” empire building. Christian schools have become useless as a means to building such empires; and as wiser ones warned from the start, using the Christian school in such a manner would never work. It hasn’t and as such was destined to ultimate failure. It is no surprise that so many schools have simply closed because of declining enrollment. The vision is long since lost.
Of those which remain, they survive by being interdenominational. Others survive by intentionally limiting their outreach to only the families in their own “Baptist” church or other “Baptist” churches of like faith and similar practice because they do not want the problems that interdenominational appeal can bring. They choose to remain small and adjust their budgets to survive accordingly.
The smaller schools are so technologically deficient that they cannot any longer compete with the options available in the public schools, nor do they even try. They will stick with the “time-tested, old-fashioned ways.” If such logic is valid then why not go all the way back to the days of a one-room school, hard wood seats, coal scuttle, feather pens, and slates? Why not go back to the days when only boy apprentices were tutored by a master? Take it all the way back in the old “Way Back Machine.” The logic sort of falls apart doesn’t it.
So many such schools lack the funds to even sustain a bare-bones science program in spite of the nice science lab they may have built. No one seems to have thought that far ahead that a quality science program must be not only maintained, but growing to stay current. It comes back to that old idea of having started a school ill-advisedly—without thinking it through and counting the real cost. It is not that it can’t be done. IS God able? He is! But what has happened to the potential of the Christian education movement is not related to God’s ability but to the lack of the commitment of the leaders He appointed and their own people. Without a vision, the people perish.
TBD
[TBD] With all the Christian leaders who frequent this site, it is interesting how the issues I brought up seem to be pretty much ignored. Perhaps, some of my perspectives hit a little too close to home speaking as one from inside the Christian school movement from its heydays to its current sad state of affairs.About the “pretty much ignored”
- The church were I am a member has http://fourthbaptistchristianschool.org/ a very solid Christian school . We pay our teachers an adequate salary! Our church has the size, the facilities, and the commitment to provide excellence in education AND a good working environment (including pay)
- I suspect that the vast majority of the Pastors on this site, Pastor churches without Christian schools. So to be fair, they don’t own the problem
- I know that the issues are not “pretty much ignored” because they have been discussed again and again.
- My own view, and this is not the first time I’ve stated it (see above) is that the CDS (Christian Day School) model is pretty much broken and unstainable for many churches. I don’t have vast knowlege of the CDS landscape but I have knowlege about a number of Church-sponsored CDSs in Minnesota. In one very pitiful case the school basically is the church with a handful (less than 50) worshippers on a Sunday. One long time S/I member (who happens to be a Pastor) closed his church’s ACE school because it was unable to adequately pay the staff.
- This is going to sound harsh because of your own dedication to the CSD movement, but part of the problem is the willingness for teachers to be underpaid. Certainly the predominance of abysmally low pay is not new news!
- Realistically any one pastor or S/I member has no sway over another church’s CDS!
It’s easy to say … you ought to pay me an adequate salary. But the flip side is that YOU are worthy of your own hire. I was an underpaid pastor for a number of years. My wife worked and the ends were met. But the trend line in my case is that I was not likely be paid a salary. I went out and got a job in IT
Since I have not been a teacher, but with a lot of Chriistian school experience, if that is true, I think 10 per cent or less.
Those who have taught are so desirous to serve our Lord they take the positions. If they do not, the ministry will find someone else.
I admit we never charge for tuition what the teachers are worth, perhaps we should have tried. Perhaps the schools would have closed.
I do not believe the answers are easy.
As much as I feel badly for TBD and his experience, we should all count it joy that our Wonderful Lord has allowed us the priivlege of serving Him.
I am sure the one who remains I Cor. 15:58 will recieve due reward in Glory.
Another thing, I do remember when pastors considered it a status symbol to have a Christian school. I also remember when some considered themselves to be free when that school no longer existed or they went to another ministry. God has blessed me by giving me a heart for Christian education far beyond what I ever dreamed.
I don’t think that we know each other. I am not familiar, to my knowledge, with your place of service. I don’t have, therefore, any context to evaluate your assertions and anecdotes regarding staff and compensation issues. So, for someone like me to not make any comments about what you’ve written is simply a reflection of those realities, not that you’ve made some ironclad case about the problems within Christian education. I’ll speak for myself—my silence doesn’t mean I agree with you.
Do I think that some places fit the description you’ve offered? Sure. Do I think you’re assessment of things is also skewed by your own experiences? Certainly. Do I think it does much good to come on SharperIron and argument with you about subjective observations based on your personal experience? No, not at all. My silence has simply been the reflection of the fact that, given the subject at hand, it is a no win situation to disagree with anything you’ve said—there are simply too many variables at play, too much subjectivity in this discussion, and real people are facing real financial hardships.
We probably agree on more than we disagree, and what I disagree with you about is mainly the accusatory tone and careless generalizations. But, I’ve not been in your shoes, so I can’t assess whether the pastors you’ve known are as greedy as you have painted them out to be. I sure hope not. If so, they shouldn’t be pastors. I am sure that there greedy pastors, but I think that they are in the minority.
And I think the gap that you and I both think is wrong doesn’t always or even usually come from greed, but from a variety of other factors. There is not a silver bullet answer to this problem. It probably would be good to have a thread or two dedicated to talking about solutions, but this was a thread designed to honor commitment to ministry that was redirected, in my view, to impugning other people’s motives for ministry. You wondered about why some are silent regarding your posts, so I’m only here to offer my answer to that question.
As for our church, we are working hard to take care of those who serve here, consistently trying to increase their regular pay, designing a top notch benefits package that addresses the necessities of life now and down the road, and distributing significant amounts of additional compensation if our revenues exceed our expenses during a given year. I’ve added this last paragraph simply to show that we take the matter seriously and, by God’s grace, have been aggressive in trying to meet the needs of those who serve Christ here. Nobody is getting rich here, at least not in this world. God is graciously taking care of His servants and we are full of thanksgiving for that.
DMD
http://www.providenceacademy.org/
Here’s the tuition for 9-12: $15,855
This school has:
- Excellent facilities
- A growing enrollment
- Well paid teachers
The tuition for 1-12 = $ 3415.
You can probably guess which school I think provides a better overall education. Which one has a better business model?
[Jim Peet] Here’s an excellent private (Catholic) school in my communityHow do you know how much the teachers are paid? Is that public information?
http://www.providenceacademy.org/
Here’s the tuition for 9-12: $15,855
This school has:Here’s a Baptist school in the Twin Cities: http://www.fbsrosemount.org/index.php
- Excellent facilities
- A growing enrollment
- Well paid teachers
The tuition for 1-12 = $ 3415.
You can probably guess which school I think provides a better overall education. Which one has a better business model?
I was part of an audit of a high end private institution ($15K-$20K tuition) and you’d be surprised how much lower they paid their teachers than their public school counterparts. Are they being paid better than the Baptist Chritian School teachers? Probably, but not as much as you think.
Let me ask you a question, have you or would you pay $15K year for your child’s education?
I have run a Christian school for 27 years and worked in a Christian school for 6 years. I know the challenges inside and out. My first assignment in ministry paid me 12,000 dollars a year as a full-time youth pastor and Bible teacher. We charge about 4000 dollars a year. We give discounts to our church members of 13% because they annually contribute 250,000 dollars a year in the church offerings to help run our school. We also give the same amount to missions each year. We give multiple child discounts and our stated price includes books, all fees, school camp, school trips, and all extra-curricular events. It is a one price charge with no surprises, hidden costs, no “gotcha” fees, and no school-wide fund-raisers. Most of my teachers have been with me for decades. They are not leaving and they love teaching here. Most own their own homes and have put their children through college. My wife also has taught in our school for 25 years.
Anyone can gripe about the problems and those problems related to CE are extremely difficult to solve. Griping takes zero brains, talent, or leadership. We can’t fund our programs and pensions like the government by endlessly printing paper money and going 16 TRILLION dollars into debt in order to fund the outrageous salaries and pensions that the MEA and other government unions have extorted out the American tax payer over the last 50 years. We actually have to pay our bills, on time, and balance budgets. Unless you can suggest practical, realistic solutions and actually have the courage to take the leadership of a ministry and implement them, I suggest you take a quiet seat in the back of the room.
Pastor Mike Harding
What I am trying to do is to describe the attitude that leads highly talented and educated people to settle for salaries that the carnally-minded see as laughable…As with any living organism, the healthy function of a church or ministry requires a certain amount of symbiosis. It is important that ministers, who Scripturally are required to provide for their families to even be qualified to man such positions, receive adequate pay for their labors. But if they see a need and are willing to make some sacrifices in order to prosper the endeavor in question for the long term, then that is certainly a legitimate and honorable decision, and we do not need to pity them.
…I also understand the responsibility that an institution bears toward such self-sacrificing people. Precisely because they can be taken advantage of so easily, they are a sacred trust. God will hold the institution and its leaders responsible for their treatment. My sympathies are with every administrator who struggles with decisions about raising salaries versus meeting other institutional concerns. Professors are not well served if they receive higher compensation (which they surely deserve) for a year, only to see their institution close its doors.
My concern is that the Biblical qualifications of leadership don’t get completely tossed out the window in the name of ‘sacrificing for the ministry’. One’s house must remain in order, and that involves a healthy family dynamic, with spouses meeting each other’s needs first, and the needs of their children- physically, intellectually, emotionally, and spiritually- as well as being credible in their financial status.
[Barry L] How do you know how much the teachers are paid? Is that public information?
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Let me ask you a question, have you or would you pay $15K year for your child’s education?
- I don’t have vast knowlege of the CDS landscape but I have knowlege about a number of Church-sponsored CDSs in Minnesota (see my earlier post)
- Your question is pointed and a bit too personal! My children are adults and we have been empty nesters for over 10 years. But I would not subject my child to an inferior education. The real question is … will people pay good money for a quality education?
Interesting that you would make this statement and then follow it by the admission that you do not know my situation. Would it then have not been prudent to avoid making your own accusations and careless generalizations?
What I am being told—and I have heard it told for all of my years in Christian education, is that the situation of adequate teacher pay is so complicated that I as a lowly teacher cannot possibly understand its intricacies and all the efforts that pastors and administrators have put into resolving the issue. That because I am just a teacher, it is beyond both my ability and my purview to grasp, and therefore any input from me is automatically classified as “accusatory” or “careless generalizations.” You underestimate how much of the reality is plainly evident and painfully exposed to those of my lowly stature. Our experiences always skew our perspectives; yours no less than mine I might add.
My generalizations are generalizations because it is not prudent to name specific schools, pastors, and administrators. However, they are by no means careless or accusatory. I have witnessed too much to buy your personal assessment of them.
There are undoubtedly ministries, pastors, and administrators that address these issues with far greater honesty, integrity, and success and I would not for a second include them in my generalizations.
The issues of low teacher pay in Christian schools are too widespread *as the norm* for me to believe that the issues are being or have ever been adequately addressed—not when teacher pay in Christian schools K-12 is unquestionably poverty level—as the norm. They perhaps are being addressed as you said they are in your ministry, {and I commend you for looking after your teaching staff.}, but that is likely more the exception than the rule.
As to “Silver Bullet” solutions to the problem—oh, Dr. Doran it is way too late for that. Most of Christian education as we have known it over the past 30 years has already lost its educational credibility. Too many schools have closed their doors, and many more cannot in all honesty justify their continued existence they are so far from the goals of Christian Education. More need to close their doors rather than continue charging tuition for a product they know they can no longer deliver.
You deserve to be commended for your efforts to pay your staff well. No true servant of Christ would have a goal of getting rich; neither was such a thing my goal. My hope was to be able to pay my son’s way through college as my parents did for me. When I could not do that, and saw that most of those I worked for in ministry COULD do it for their kids … that is when the inequity was driven home. As a teacher with a graduate degree in education after 26 years, I made approximately minimum wage and probably half of what our church youth pastor was paid. Slice that any way you want and it comes out wrong.
TBD
Yes—I have many of those thoughts now. Perhaps I should have foreseen the end results of my decision to become a Christian school teacher—my Dad did warn me that I might get to this point and find myself wishing I had done otherwise after investing my life into it and having nothing to show for it. Lest I be accused of carnality here, I know that the Lord knew my heart and will reward me in heaven. But what about the needs here and now. I see many pastors and administrators at the same stage in life retiring comfortably, but I cannot. I have to pray and work that God will supply now what I never made enough to provide for … retirement for my wife and me. That when we die, we will not leave behind a bunch of bills for our children to pay off. You can accuse me all you want that I handled my finances unwisely, but that is not the case.
If I did anything unwise, then it was in not seeing the trend of the pay in Christian education for what it really was—in spite of all the promises we were made of future improvement on that issue. Perhaps I should have seen it—others did—and got out and got different jobs that would enable them to take care of their families.
God helping me, I am taking action now to rectify what looks like a lifetime of having been lied by those whom I worked for.
TBD
http://www.carondeletcatholicschool.com/tuition_financial_aid.aspx
http://www.ascensionschoolmn.org/enrollment.html
http://www.sainthelena.us/school/about/index.htm
http://www.btcsmn.org/admissions/tuition.htm
I am not sure if Pastor Harding is addressing me here as a suspected “Disaffected BJU Alumnus.” I do not recall ever mentioning BJU in my posts though the discussion thread undoubtedly deals with that. I do not think the issue of pay is unique to BJU. I was not specifically addressing the situation with BJU as I personally doubt the credibility of the numbers their critics have put forward about the salary issue. I was addressing the pay issue as one endemic to most of Christian Education.
I think I do find highly offensive his suggestion that unless I am a leader and capable of implementing a workable plan of resolving the issues I have mentioned, then I should just shut up and take a seat in the back of the room. That is the same old story of a leader relegating an underlings objections on an issue as irrelevant. Minimize the issue. Shut up and be quiet. I guess he put me in my place and told me where to get off the bus. Since I am not a leader, then I have nothing of value to say. Nice one, Mike. Was that a Christ-like response?
If I have misread your intent, I apologize. There are no seats in the back of the room, so I will continue to stand any way I can.
TBD
As I look back at my previous response to you, it was not a good response.
I was trying to make this point - “Giving away the product”
What I am not saying:
- That a Catholic school is better than a Baptist (you did not infer that I meant that but I just want to make myself clear to all!)
- That the second school mentioned was some how an inferior eduction. I didn’t say that either but I just want to make that clear
- I’m not saying that $ 15,000 tuition would be considered affordable to me.
- Quality education costs money: Property, building, facilities (technology, labs, etc), salaries, etc
- Not all education is the same quality. (I about posted a picture and link of the pitiful case I mentioned earlier but I will spare that organization (a Baptist school-church) the embarrassment)
- Parents will pay more for a quality education
- Many CDSs are “on the cheap”.
- Pastors and CDS administrators need to formulate a business model that provides a superior education to the public school AND pays their employees an adequate salary!
- If they cannot do that, they need to reevaluate whether they should be in the CDS business
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