One Mom’s Look at Tedd Tripp’s Book: Shepherding a Child’s Heart

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(Today and Thursday, we’ll be posting two perspectives on Christian parenting. Anne Sokol’s focuses on Tedd Tripp’s popular book on parenting. In tomorrow’s article, Aaron Blumer writes on “The Simplicity of Biblical Parenting.”)

For brevity, I focus here on my disagreements with Shepherding a Child’s Heart—its application of some Scriptures and its overall emphasis. My main concerns are these:

  1. The book’s focus on requiring obedience as the primary component of the parent/child relationship and emphasis on parental authority as the right to require obedience.
  2. Tripp’s teaching that spanking is the means the parent must use in order to bring a child back into “the circle of blessing.”
  3. Tripp’s interpretation that the “rod” in Proverbs equals spanking, that spanking is even for young children, that spanking is the God-ordained means of discipline (which parents must obey) and that use of the rod saves a child’s soul from death.
  4. His portrayal of any other style or method of parenting in a derogatory manner and training parents’ consciences that failure to discipline as his book teaches is disobedience to God.

These points are the heart of Tripp’s teaching, and while his book contains many truths, it does not communicate the full truth of gospel-oriented parenting, as he claims it does.

1. Is obedience the primary component of the parent-child relationship, and is it right for parents to mainly exercise their authority as the right to require obedience?

For several reasons, I see the obedience emphasis as a frustrating, and even false, paradigm for the parent/child relationship. The truth of the gospel is that my child will never obey me or God perfectly while on the earth. I, an adult, will never obey God perfectly on this earth. The essence of the gospel is that perfect obedience to God’s standards is only achieved by Christ—and in Him, we are free from this exacting burden.

So emphasizing obedience as the primary component of the family relationship, as Tripp does, distorts the gospel and puts our focus on ourselves and our sinfulness—not only because we will always fail, but also because our works are not praiseworthy; they are only acceptable insomuch as they are the Spirit’s work. The gospel focuses us on Christ’s obedience and His complete sufficiency for us. And the deeper we understand and accept that truth, the more we are transformed into His image (i.e., the more we obey). Obedience is the fruit, not the object. Obedience is our joyful freedom, not our punishable law.

Martin Luther wrote:

Therefore the first care of every Christian ought to be to lay aside all reliance on works, and strengthen his faith alone more and more, and by it grow in the knowledge, not of works, but of Christ Jesus, who has suffered and risen again for him, as Peter teaches (1 Peter v.) when he makes no other work to be a Christian one….

Then comes in that other part of Scripture, the promises of God, which declare the glory of God, and say, “If you wish to fulfil [sic] the law, and, as the law requires, not to covet, lo! believe in Christ, in whom are promised to you grace, justification, peace, and liberty.” All these things you shall have, if you believe, and shall be without them if you do not believe. For what is impossible for you by all the works of the law, which are many and yet useless, you shall fulfil [sic] in an easy and summary way through faith, because God the Father has made everything to depend on faith….

Now, since these promises of God are words of holiness, truth, righteousness, liberty, and peace, and are full of universal goodness, the soul, which cleaves to them with a firm faith, is so united to them, nay, thoroughly absorbed by them, that it not only partakes in, but is penetrated and saturated by, all their virtues.1

A better rubric for parenting is developing a loving relationship (which does entail teaching obedience) which prayerfully prepares a child’s heart so that it is favorable to receive the good seed of the gospel. Again, teaching obedience is one part of this. Tripp’s emphasis is wrong and his methods are limited—he claims that communication and the rod are the only “biblical” methods of discipline.

Second, on the subject of authority as the right to require obedience, Tripp writes:

Authority best describes the parent’s relationship to the child. (p. xix)

When your child is old enough to resist your directives, he is old enough to be disciplined. When he is resisting you, he is disobeying…. Rebellion can be something as simple as an infant struggling against a diaper change or stiffening out his body when you want him to sit in your lap. (p. 154)

Yes, loving parenting authority does require obedience, but the extent to which Tripp emphasizes this is mistaken. Though he mentions other aspects of servanthood in authority, his main thrust is authority as requiring obedience, and he goes to great lengths to teach parents exactly how to exercise authority in this manner. Tripp’s book makes this the main factor in the parent/child relationship in a manner that is not consistent with Scripture.

For example, God’s relationship with us as His children is characterized by many things other than His right to demand obedience from us. He emphasizes lovingkindness, rejoicing, longsuffering, compassion, and sacrifice. He meets our true needs, helps us to will and to do His good pleasure, has compassion on us, blesses us—and much more. Tripp gives little attention to how these apply to parenting.

We want to model the entire nature of God—not mainly God’s exercise of authority over us to command obedience. Communicating to my child that God can be trusted because He always is acting in wisdom, righteousness and truth toward us is the more godly path to obedience.

Again, Martin Luther understands:

This also is an office of faith: that it honours with the utmost veneration and the highest reputation Him in whom it believes, inasmuch as it holds Him to be truthful and worthy of belief…. What higher credit can we attribute to any one than truth and righteousness, and absolute goodness?

Thus the soul, in firmly believing the promises of God, holds Him to be true and righteous…. In doing this the soul shows itself prepared to do His whole will; in doing this it hallows His name, and gives itself up to be dealt with as it may please God. For it cleaves to His promises, and never doubts that He is true, just, and wise, and will do, dispose, and provide for all things in the best way. Is not such a soul, in this its faith, most obedient to God in all things?

In His dealings with us as His children, God does nothing like reaching down and spanking us each time we disobey. Sin has natural consequences, but God bears them with us, redeems them, and works in the secret places of our hearts transforming our beliefs and understanding about Him. Greater obedience results. His graciousness is not permissive, but it is very patient—training yet not demanding.

2. Does spanking bring a child back into the “circle of blessing”?

Shepherding a Child’s Heart connects spanking with blessing:

The rod returns the child to the place of blessing…. The rod of correction returns him to the place of submission to parents in which God has promised blessing. (p. 115)

The disobedient child has moved outside the place of covenant blessing. The parent must quickly restore the child to the proper relationship with God and the parent. As the child returns to the circle of blessing, things go well for him. He enjoys long life. (p. 135-136)

The Bible does not support Tripp’s teaching that spanking brings a child back into the “circle of blessing.” Spanking is not endued by God with such spiritual power, nor, in fact, is a parent endued with the power to restore the child. Biblically, confession and repentance restore our fellowship with God and others. Let’s cling to this promise: “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (NASB, 1 John 1:9). Tripp’s made-up “circle of blessing” teaching goes beyond what God says.

Also, the command to obey was given to the child. Just as husbands are not told to make their wives submit and wives are not told to make their husbands love them, parents are not told to make their children obey.

I taught my daughters to obey—starting when they were small—because I wanted their hearts to be sensitive and trained in the things of God. But teaching obedience is only one facet of my parenting.

3. Has Tedd Tripp correctly interpreted the “rod” passages?

Tripp teaches that the “rod” in Proverbs equals spanking, that spanking is even for young children, that spanking is the God-ordained means of discipline (which parents must obey) and that use of the rod saves a child’s soul from death.

God has commanded the use of the rod in discipline and correction of children. It is not the only thing you do, but it must be used. He has told you that there are needs within your children that require use of the rod. If you are going to rescue your children from death, if you are going to root out the folly that is bound up in their hearts, if you are going to impart wisdom, you must use the rod. (p. SACH, 108)

The rod … is the parent, as God’s representative, undertaking on God’s behalf what God has called him to do. He is not on his own errand, but fulfilling God’s. (p. SACH, 109)

Tripp’s use of Proverbs 23:14 (NIV: “Punish him [a child] with the rod and save his soul from death”) is faulty. Only the grace of God saves us from death and from our sinfulness. It is unbiblical to assert that spanking is God’s “means of grace” for saving children in any way. We diligently teach our children to obey, but spanking them is not salvific in nature. In fact, it is usually unnecessary. There are many godly ways we can teach our children to obey: by our example, by physically helping them fulfill our instructions, by meeting their internal and external needs, by teaching that choices have consequences, etc. God does these things for us as His children.2

The book refers several times to this conversation:

Father: “I must spank you. If I don’t, then I would be disobeying God.” (p. 31)

And again, “Dear, you know what Mommy said and you did not obey Mommy. And now I’ll have to spank you.” (p. 103)

In reference to the mother’s actions, Tripp explains that “the issues of correction transcend the present. All earthly punishment presupposes the great day when destinies are eternally fixed” (p. 103).

The conversation Tripp describes suggests parents who are controlled by a parenting formula rather than by the Holy Spirit: “I must spank you.” And linking earthly punishment to the day of judgment is a distortion of God’s relationship to us. As His child, my eternal destiny was decided already, because He punished His Son, not me.

As His children, He does not consistently punish us when we sin. He trains and disciplines us consistently but He is not obligated to punish us. By teaching parents that they are required to spank, Tripp teaches children (and their parents) that—contrary to the gospel—God does punish us consistently for our sins. Because Christ was punished for us, God is free to use whatever methods of discipline He wishes in order to train us and bring us closer to Himself.

Luther’s words are helpful once again:

When I say, such a Person [Christ], by the wedding-ring of faith, takes a share in the sins, death, and hell of His wife, nay, makes them His own, and deals with them no otherwise than as if they were His, and as if He Himself had sinned…. Thus the believing soul, by the pledge of its faith in Christ, becomes free from all sin, fearless of death, safe from hell, and endowed with the eternal righteousness, life, and salvation of its Husband Christ.

Tripp errs gravely in asserting that spanking is God-ordained, that God’s methods of discipline are limited to communication and spanking, and that parents must spank or they are sinning.

The book also lacks adequate attention to age differences and stages of development—a great aid in child-rearing. On this point, Sally Clarkson writes:

The unfortunate thing is that many parents, in the name of faithful discipline, do not understand the differences between babies or toddlers or young children or even teens with all of their hormones, and they exhibit anger and harshness toward their children, act in a demeaning way, while neglecting the cues of the child at each stage. These parents have no perspective for the children themselves–they use a rule and formula no matter what–and often wonder why their children do not respond to them.3

4. Is Tripp correct that any other methods of parenting are ineffective and disobedient?

Finally, Tripp consistently describes other methods or styles of parenting or discipline as ineffective and undesirable. This is a weakness in his argument because other godly methods of biblical training do exist and have been used effectively for many years.

For example, a daughter of Puritan parents, Mary Fish (1736-1818) writes: “They were very watchful over us in all our ways, and they had such a happy mode of governing that they would even govern us with an eye, and they never used severity with us at all.”4

These summarize several of the major errors in teaching and emphases that I have found in Shepherding a Child’s Heart. The book includes several good teachings, but the overarching errors concern me to the point that I do not recommend the book to parents. Those considering promoting this book and its teachings seriously should give these topics a lot of thought.

Notes

1 All Luther excerpts here are from Concerning Christian Liberty, Part 2.

2 According to Clay Clarkson, Heartfelt Discipline, Prov. 23:14 is probably referring to the use of an actual rod on the back of a young man (p. 56).

3 http://www.itakejoy.com/first-time-obedience-really/

4 Joy Day Buel and Richard J. Buel, Jr. The Way of Duty: A Woman and Her Family in Revolutionary America, p. 7

Discussion

My wife and I have successfully raised three children to adulthood. They are all well adjusted, godly, productive members of their church and serving God as I write this. (Though I would hardly make experience the final authority, I do think having successfully run the gauntlet of child rearing three times does allow me to address the issue of spanking.)

IMHO

1. Raising a child is like making a complex recipe, it requires many ingredients. Spanking is but one ingredient of the recipe. We must also have many cups full of love, and fun, and games, and friends, and toys and play time. But if spanking isn’t in there, the recipe won’t turn out the same.

2. We found spanking works best with young children in open rebellion. Though I appreciate Anne’s emphasis on reasoning, and coming along side her child, and emphasizing the amazing grace of the gospel, the reality is, you can’t reason with a 2 year old whose heart is full of rebellion. Once the child is old enough to reason with, by all means you had better know how to teach and train and impart biblical truth. But that job will be much easier if you’ve dealt with the rebellion that is born in every human heart at an early age. Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child, the rod of correction will drive it far from them. Deal with rebellion at an early age and all phases of parenting will be much easier. Neglect it and all phases will be harder. If done will diligence and consistency (see below) you should be spanking very little by the age of 5.

3. The goal of parenting is to produce godly adults who have self-control, disciple, and the ability to be submissive to the authority of God. Spanking is part of that character training. It will help the child overcome their rebellious sin nature by helping them be motivated to do so. It isn’t to bully them, or take out your frustration on them.

4. Disciplined children require disciplined parents. It is much easier to just holler louder and louder and louder. It is very difficult to speak softly, require quick cheerful obedience, and administer calm punishment when it isn’t forthcoming. Remember, while you’re trying to train them, they are trying to train you. If the typical spanking session at your home comes when you are red in the face, and at your wits end, you need to stop spanking. Take a deep breath. Look in the mirror, ask, “Who is the adult here?” once you have a grip on that (it’s you by the way), then calmly go to your child, tell them you’ve been acting badly as a parent by not modeling loving patience, and ask their forgiveness. Then next time they display open rebellion speak to them calmly, “Did you understand what I said?” “Do you understand if you disobey that will be sinning?” (Or whatever words are age appropriate). If they are still willfully rebellious then calmly spank them. Don’t yell, scream, holler, or act like a 2 year old yourself.

5. Always make sure you test your spanking implement on yourself first. Always. Very benign looking items can hurt a lot more then you may suspect. The goal is to correct the child, not harm the child. There should be no bruises or welts but it should hurt (and not just their pride). A wimpy spanking will very likely breed contempt, rather then obedience.

I guess that is my case in point about churches teaching options …

It’s … what is the word? … maybe strange? the way we are so dependent on spanking to produce godly children. I think there is something deeply wrong in this teaching.
But if spanking isn’t in there, the recipe won’t turn out the same.
Has God endued spanking with some spiritual power? people say yes. I’m thinking, no. it’s not in Bible.

Anne, your case in point has not dealt seriously with Heb 12, an explicit NT text that reinforces exactly what the OT meaning was.

You have instead opted for a negotiation tactic (your word) when it comes to raising children.

God is serious about sin. You cannot accurately portray God’s view of sin/punishment if you fail to obey what the scripture says.

The problem isn’t that it isn’t in the Bible. It is. Your problem is that in your experience, you didn’t see the immediate results. You have substituted faith in truth for pragmatism.

1 Kings 8:60 - so that all the peoples of the earth may know that the LORD is God and that there is no other.

Hebrews 12:11

No discipline seems enjoyable at the time, but painful.

Yes, an examination of Heb 12 would put this entire thread back in line with scripture.

To those with the courage to obey God, I salute you.

1 Kings 8:60 - so that all the peoples of the earth may know that the LORD is God and that there is no other.

Logically if you’re going to say that this passage is only about persecution, then you’re going to have to deal with the clear connection between how the Lord deals with His children and how fathers are supposed to deal with their children. Either you’d have to deny the connection or you’d have to say that fathers are supposed to “persecute” their children. Obviously that doesn’t make sense.

To say that Hebrews 12 is about “persecution” is side-stepping the issue. It’s about “discipline,” specifically “chastening” discipline that is “painful.” Persecution may be one form of that chastening discipline, but certainly not the only form. Otherwise you’d have to say that anyone who is not being persecuted is not being disciplined by the Lord.

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Bob Bixby said something in his article that resonated with me about the differences in relationships parents have with their younger children and their older children. Frankly, I think Anne is brave to make the points she has and spark this very useful discussion.

Not to make this confession time, but I have a poorer relationship with my oldest (14-1/2 year old whom I know I spanked too much and many times did so punitively [to satisfy my own anger] ) than I do with my youngest (a 9 year old whom I spank/ed much less and, when I do so, spank much “better”).

The thing is, one of the major preventatives that made this difference was reading Tripp’s book when my 9yo was very young. Tripp gave me lots of other tools without which, frankly, spanking may be useless.

But I don’t think we can throw spanking out because the bathwater seems just so dirty. I think Heb 12 does indeed bolster the case for judicious use of spanking. I think an appeal to the context of Jewish society via Deut. 21 fails to overturn the case for spanking children, then or now. As for the OT, if you didn’t want your young man stoned and spanking/caning was a preventative for that, when would that discipline be administered? Boys became young men younger in OT times than they do today.

Furthermore, there are similar potential societal outcomes today that could be considered the contextual correlatives (prison, death by reckless behavior, etc) to the Deut. 21 situation.

And my recollection is that physical discipline is covered in only one of 13 or 14 chapters in Tripp’s book. Again, I can’t check because my copy is out on loan. The “rubric” I came away from it with was definitely not one of a rigid “obey or suffer” structure.

Not to say someone else couldn’t read it that way. And warnings may be helpful, even essential, for some.

but if you’re going to follow that this verse is supporting discipline of children in the way you mean, then you need to say, look, son, God wrote this passage to you saying that even if I am being sinful in my discipline of you now, He is still using it for your good.

i think it comes from reading that Christ is our example how to endure the hostility of sinners. they hadn’t endured the sin of sinners against them to the point of shedding blood—like the Pakistani Christians have today, for example. “therefore, strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that are feeble, and make straight paths for your feet, so that the limb which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed.” Hebrews 12:12-13

I think you have to consider the cultural you are in, too. if you are reading those verses as instructions for parents to punish, and you are in culture that almost never punishes children, and you punish your child three times as they grow up, you can read those verses and have fulfilled them.

About the word punishment, I think there are times I do “punish” my children (usually I call it losing a blessing), and they cry and so on. I try to keep negative discipline, like punishment) to a minimum, but I dont’ think it’s at all wrong to do. There are other times Vitaliy puts them to sleep (i’m mean snoring in the bed sleep :D ) for certain behavior—maybe that is also punishment b/c they dislike it.

The text is making a point how God disciplines His children—maybe via persecution, maybe not, that really isn’t relevant. The reason it isn’t relevant:

- The points being made there are being illustrated by assertions about parenting

- Therefore, whatever the points are, they are not valid unless the underlying assertions about parenting are true

So we have some solid info about parenting either way.

In any case, is anyone really going to deny that God disciplines His children through suffering? Doing that would put one up against centuries of Christian belief and teaching across all traditions.

About Clarkson, I was reading an electronic copy. I’ll get some quotes and page numbers.

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

David, I’m glad you commented on that. Bixby is right—phases that my first went through seemed a battleground b/c I didn’t know it was self-passing phase. my second, i hardly even notice that stuff any more.

I’m glad tripp helped you. I really am, and that you latched on to the right things in that book. Other people latch on to the wrong things, like this exact instruction: “When does a child need a spanking? When you have given a directive that he has heard and is within his capacity to understand and he has not obeyed without challenge, without excuse or without delay, he needs a spanking. If you fail to spank, you fail to take God’s Word seriously. You are saying you do not believe what the Bible teaches about the import of these issues… . If obedience is to be absolutely mandatory for him, you cannot tolerate disobedience” (149).

That is a crazy, crazy statement to put into print. That is a foundation for adversarial parenting if that’s what a parent latches on to. There are so many stages of development, and making a blanket instruction like that—especially in the section for “infancy and childhood” is very dangerous.

Tripp takes any sign of struggle or disobedience as rebellion, and that is not biblical. Biblical rebellion is a different phenomenon than a two yr old going through a negative phase or the repetitive undesirable behavior of a small child, for example.

One thing that saved my relationship with my first when she was two is that i remember this scrap of information that 2 is when the child is going through his first major separation of identity phase, that is why all the negativity. Understanding that this natural phase was mainly not a rebellious child defying my authority but a kid in transition helped me have a lot more wisdom in dealing with obedience training.

Then, about repetitive behaviors example, my friend posted this comment recently:
And really… parents often assign “sin” and “defiance” to behaviours that are simply part of God’s design for how a child grows and develops. I mean, really — a child needs to have persistence to LEARN just about anything. Connect the synapses. So what does the child do? Repeats things. Again and again and again. He does it while playing. He does it with his body movement. And he does it in actions that mommy says “no” to — but he is learning! That persistence is NEEDED and God’s design. Just because I redirect and say no one times, doesn’t mean that the next ten times are “defiance” and “rebellion” — most of the time, really — they are LEARNING. (And Mommy needs to be patient and consistent in helping the little one learn “no” about that action, too!)
Sally Clarkson wrote: “When we discipline our children, we must learn to look at their hearts. Is their heart rebellious? Are they being willful? Am I expecting too much for them–their age, their level of over-stimulation, the circumstances, their maturity level, their abilities? A child should not be punished for being exhausted, immature, a boy, or for making a mistake. I make mistakes all the time, again and again. And yet scripture teaches in the new testament and the old that maturity is as a result of training, time, growth, heart and will… . “

I think those types of insights really help a parent develop wisdom about handling their children. I am just nervous about people applying some of the direct statements Tripp wrote. Confession, after I read Tripp, i have to detox for a day or two while I’m a total bossy, demanding crab with my kids. It just effects me that way, all his authority stuff with so little compassion, mercy, or understanding. It is already hard enough for me to have compassion and understanding for my kids—it’s a learned thing really.

Oh, also, I heartheartheart Karen Campbell’s thoughtful applications of the “one another” passages to our relationships with our children. Sometimes, sadly, I have been convicted that I was treating my kids worse that I would ever treat an unbeliever or fellow church member—such strictness and lack of understanding or pity. why do we excuse or even train ourselves in such strictness to our own children when they are so young and open to us … it’s really sad. I have regrets. I’m hope they dont remember.

Clarkson does have some good things to say. The book does have some value. But his theology on the nature of children is incorrect in some serious ways and he systematically reduces the relevance of Proverbs to something like Solomon’s Suggestions for Teens.

Some examples of what my impression derives from:

p.51 “Physical discipline of children is not prohibited. God nowhere says, ‘Thou shalt not spank.’ However, it’s clear that neither is it commanded or even suggested in Scripture.”

p. 55 “Scripture refers to the ‘little ones’ and young children as innocent and under the protection of adults, in part because they don’t yet know right from wrong (in the sense of being culpable for that knowledge.)”

p. 56 On Prov. 22:15 “… although it may be true that young child’s heart seems full of foolishness, that is not the point of Proverbs 22:15, which has a “young man” in view. Foolishness in Proverbs is not the same as the natural immaturity of a young child, a condition that is not condemned by Scripture.”

p. 56 “Should we then use the rod on rebellious sons today? No, I think not. The cultural context of those words is separate from our day by three thousand years. We are no longer bound to the Old Testament Law (for instance, we don’t stone rebellious sons). We are instead guided by the liberty and grace of the New Covenant…”


For those interested in studying the relevance of the Proverbs in general, I recommend Bruce Waltke’s introduction to Proverbs in New International Commentary on the Old Testament, Vol.1… and peruse several other introductions to the Proverbs. Clarkson’s reductionism is exceptional.

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

Anne… you keep declaring things to be unbiblical (that actually have biblical support), then asserting alternative views that are nowhere in the Bible.

Tripp takes any sign of struggle or disobedience as rebellion, and that is not biblical. Biblical rebellion is a different phenomenon than a two yr old going through a negative phase or the repetitive undesirable behavior of a small child, for example.


Where is a “negative phase” in the Bible? Research the origin of the concept and you might be surprised about where these ideas came from.

(For anybody who hasn’t noticed yet, take a peak at today’s post:

http://sharperiron.org/article/simplicity-of-biblical-parenting)

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

[Aaron Blumer] So we have some solid info about parenting either way.

In any case, is anyone really going to deny that God disciplines His children through suffering? Doing that would put one up against centuries of Christian belief and teaching across all traditions.
Parents discpline their children, God disciplines us because he loves us. it’s painful for the moment, then peaceful.

Is it talking about spanking? is it talking about endurance training? And it leads to us sharing his holiness.
[Aaron Blumer] About Clarkson, I was reading an electronic copy. I’ll get some quotes and page numbers.
if you can cut and paste, id like to read it.

Posted while you were writing, I think. See above.

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

[Aaron Blumer] Anne… you keep declaring things to be unbiblical (that actually have biblical support), then asserting alternative views that are nowhere in the Bible.

Tripp takes any sign of struggle or disobedience as rebellion, and that is not biblical. Biblical rebellion is a different phenomenon than a two yr old going through a negative phase or the repetitive undesirable behavior of a small child, for example.


Where is a “negative phase” in the Bible? Research the origin of the concept and you might be surprised about where these ideas came from.

(For anybody who hasn’t noticed yet, take a peak at today’s post:

http://sharperiron.org/article/simplicity-of-biblical-parenting)
Paul, for example, writes, “When I was a child, I used to speak as a child, think as a child, reason as a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I shall know fully just as I also have been fully known.” (1 Corinthians 13:11-12). The state of being a child or childish is not condemned nor accounted as sinful.

examples of biblical rebellion:

1. The nation of Israel: Deuteronomy 9:7 “Remember, do not forget how you provoked the LORD your God to wrath in the wilderness; from the day that you left the land of Egypt until you arrived at this place, you have been rebellious against the LORD.”

2. the wicked: Psalm 5:9-10 There is nothing reliable in what they say; Their inward part is destruction itself; Their throat is an open grave; They flatter with their tongue. Hold them guilty, O God; By their own devices let them fall! In the multitude of their transgressions thrust them out, For they are rebellious against Thee.

3. false teachers: Titus 1:10-11 10 For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach, for the sake of sordid gain.

4. unbelievers: 1 Timothy 1:9-10 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching.



I was raised in (what I now know to be) an abusive home. I was spanked for every transgression no matter how slight from very very young through the age of 16 when I entered foster care. I was told “I spank because I love you, and want you to learn how to be a good girl” “Spare the rod spoil the child” “I spank you because God tells me I have to, not because I enjoy it”

So when I had my first child…the slapping of hands and bottoms began very young…and continued to age three when he came to me and said “Momma, please don’t hit me anymore it hurts my heart” I fully believe that God gave him the words, he was not that articulate at 3yrs old.

Praise God that he had just blessed me with a child with special needs…and I was forced to learn how to parent with grace (without spanking) because my 2nd born child would not have (and still would not) been able to connect the dots between unwanted behavior and a swat on the butt.

I no longer believe that spanking is necessary for raising successful/Godly children. My oldest will be 9 (boy) this weekend and has not been spanked in years, my 6 1/2 yr old (boy) has never been spanked neither has my 4yr old (girl) or my 1yr old(girl). They are wonderful, funny, cheerful, kind, loving…and yes OBEDIENT children.

I’ve never been turned over God’s knee and spanked. Jesus never spanked anyone in the Bible. Are there unpleasant consequences to poor choices? Yes! Absolutely! I let my kids experience the fallout from their poor choices…I don’t hit them.