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Ignorance of the nature of boys is real and widespread

By Filings on Wed, 09/18/19
Society & Culture
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“Feminists are the cause of the predicament boys and men face by successfully selling the false narrative that men are, and always have been, women’s greatest enemies.” - Suzanne Venker

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T Howard

NewFeminists aren't the cause; rather, feminists are the result

Thu, 09/19/19

Feminists are NOT the cause of the predicament boys and men face today. Poor parenting and absentee fathers are the problem.

Feminists are the result of both.

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DLCreed

NewThat's a rather simplistic

Thu, 09/19/19

That’s a rather simplistic and binary assessment. If you don’t think there is an agenda driven by post-modern philosophies embraced by multiple social reconstruction efforts which is dismantling traditional masculinity and male role models (among other “oppressive subsets”), then you are naive.

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Bert Perry

NewMaybe too simple, but....

Thu, 09/19/19

….after her divorce, my mother understandably (abuse was involved, I saw physical) subscribed to Ms. Magazine for a while afterwards. It was something of a catharsis for her. However, when my stepdad came along and showed her how a man ought to cherish, provide for, and protect a woman, she dropped the subscription. In the same way, many of the 19th century feminists were ones who had either lost a lot (emotionally, financially, etc..) to men who drank away the family substance (it was linked with Prohibition for a reason), or to laws which prohibited women from managing their own property. My grandmother’s family actually got the farmland my brother and cousin still own for a song from the “executor” for a widow of a police officer. I am not sure whether the widow got a fair price, to put it mildly. I doubt it, to be honest. (I still have the purchase documents)

And while there are definitely some people pushing an agenda for that agenda’s sake, I would guess that there are an awful lot of people who would say “why exactly would I want that?” when approached with various modern feminist agendas.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

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T Howard

NewExactly

Thu, 09/19/19

I don’t deny there is an agenda being pushed, I just don’t assign it as “the cause” for the breakdown of modern masculinity. Fatherless homes and poor parenting (particularly by fathers) has led to a decline in virtuous masculinity and an increase in so-called toxic masculinity.

What the feminist agenda pushes is that all types of violence, aggression, competiveness, and stoicism are toxic. That’s clearly not true, but a father is the one who should be teaching his son the difference between bad violence and good violence, etc

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