When your congregation recites/prays the Lord's Prayer, which version?

We include "for thine (yours) is the kingdom..."
36% (5 votes)
We exclude "for thine is the kingdom..."
0% (0 votes)
Sometimes one, sometimes another
0% (0 votes)
We never recite the Lord's Prayer
64% (9 votes)
Other
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 14
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Ed Vasicek's picture

Even though we do not use the KJV, we use the longer version.  Roman Catholics add the longer ending as a response (this began in the late 1960's). 

Textually, the manuscripts most of us non-KJV people prefer do not contain the longer ending.  Some think the early church used I Chronicles 29:11 as a responsive refrain, and that it was later added on.

I believe that the Lord's Prayer is an abbreviation of the Amidah (for David Bivin's intro and comments, click here), and, while the longer ending does fit, I am suspicious of it as original. But since it is a paraphrase of an OT passage, I have no trouble with it at all.

How do you pray the Lord's Prayer?  Any comments on the Lord's Prayer are fair game.

 

 

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TylerR's picture

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I wrote a seminary paper on the Lord's Prayer. The professor was not happy I used the ESV, which excludes the last bit - "for thine is the kingdom . . ."

Different translations sometimes catch us by surprise, if we're used to seeing a verse a particular way.

 

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist?

jimfrank's picture

I'm thinking of doing two series, the Beatitudes and The Lord's Prayer.  If I preach them I want to use the Rose Publishing PowerPoint presentations.  Rose went with the longer ending.   I still use the NASB 1995 in the pulpit, and this version prints the longer ending in brackets.  I really have no opinion on the shorter vs. longer endings and also the Luke 11 version of it.  Guess that makes me suspect in certain quarters, doesn't it? Wink

Ed Vasicek's picture

jimfrank wrote:

I'm thinking of doing two series, the Beatitudes and The Lord's Prayer.  If I preach them I want to use the Rose Publishing PowerPoint presentations.  Rose went with the longer ending.   I still use the NASB 1995 in the pulpit, and this version prints the longer ending in brackets.  I really have no opinion on the shorter vs. longer endings and also the Luke 11 version of it.  Guess that makes me suspect in certain quarters, doesn't it? Wink

 

Well, Jim, I trust you!

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