Now, About Those Differences, Part Three

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Inside the Boundary

Fellowship is by definition that which is held in common. Unity is a function of that which unites. The quality of unity is always defined by the thing that unites, and the quality of fellowship is always defined by the nature of the thing that is held in common.

To speak of Christian fellowship and unity is to say that Christians hold something in common and that they are united by something. Christian unity and fellowship are not primarily experiential, but positional. All legitimate experiences and expressions of Christian unity and fellowship grow out of the real unity that exists among them.

The most basic form of Christian fellowship and unity is defined by the gospel. However else they may differ, Christians hold the gospel in common. Christian fellowship and unity are like a circle, and the boundary of the circle is the gospel.

Those who deny the gospel—whether explicitly by flat rejection or implicitly by denying some fundamental doctrine—are outside of the circle. No Christian unity or fellowship exists with someone who denies the gospel. Where no actual unity exists, any pretense of unity is the merest hypocrisy. Therefore, to profess unity or fellowship with someone who denies a fundamental of the gospel is always sinful.

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Now, About Those Differences, Part Two

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Outside the Boundary

A few months ago I wrote an essay entitled “Let’s Get Clear on This.” That essay argued the following: (1) conservative evangelicals are not neo-evangelicals; (2) conservative evangelicals are making a substantial contribution to the defense and exposition of the Christian faith; (3) substantial differences continue to distinguish conservative evangelicals from fundamentalists; but (4) fundamentalists must not treat conservative evangelicals as enemies or even opponents. These points are, I think, as clear in reality as they were presented to be in the essay.

What “Let’s Get Clear on This” did not do was to explore the differences between conservative evangelicals and fundamentalists. Such an exploration would have been beside the point in that essay. Nevertheless, those differences remain important. What I have proposed to do is to examine the ways in which fundamentalism differs from conservative evangelicalism.

Partly, this is an empirical evaluation based upon an examination of the two movements as they actually exist at this point in time. But only partly. In my examination of the differences, I am deliberately opting for an a priori definition that excludes some self-identified fundamentalists.

My reason for this decision is simple: words refer to ideas, and ideas are anterior to things. This discussion will recognize as fundamentalists only those who approximate the idea of fundamentalism. Of course, none of us perfectly implements the idea. Whenever ideas are incarnated in human institutions, movements, and persons, they display the effects of human finiteness and fallenness. No ideal fundamentalist (or conservative, or Baptist, or even Christian, for that matter) has ever existed, and none ever will. We judge ourselves by the idea. In the present discussion, I shall consider only those versions of fundamentalism that are closer to the idea.

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Now, About Those Differences, Part One

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Why This Discussion?

Some weeks ago I wrote a piece expressing appreciation and even admiration for the contributions that conservative evangelicals are making to the Christian faith. Many people have replied, both publicly and privately, both agreeably and disagreeably. Leaving aside the most hysterical evaluations, responses have generally fallen into four categories.

First, some have questioned whether particular individuals or institutions should have been listed as conservative evangelical. According to this response, some of the evangelicals whom I listed are not so conservative after all. To this criticism I reply that my direct knowledge of some individuals and organizations is less complete than my knowledge of others. It is entirely possible that a few of these people may be less conservative than I had understood them to be.

Since my main concern was with conservative evangelicalism as a movement, however, the inclusion or exclusion of a few names does not fundamentally alter my conclusions. In other words, the first criticism is not directed against the argument itself. The remaining criticisms, however, go to the heart of the matter. Let me put them on the table, and then I can evaluate them together.

Second, some have praised my essay for what they took to be its blanket endorsement of conservative evangelicalism. These respondents seem to believe that no appreciable difference exists between conservative evangelicals and fundamentalists. In my article they read agreement. They welcomed my observations as a legitimization for abolishing whatever barriers inhibit fundamentalists from fully cooperating with conservative evangelicals.

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A Noteworthy Conference

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One of the perks of my job is that I get to go to many conferences. In fact, I am virtually required to attend, and often asked to speak at conferences of various sorts. Most are sponsored by parachurch agencies of some sort. Most are worth attending, which places the average pastor in something of a dilemma. Given his limited resources, how can he choose which conferences to attend?

Some are drawn to speakers or locations, while others choose conferences based upon their themes. Some attend out of obligation (perhaps their church is associated with the organization that is hosting the conference). Many go for the fellowship.

The conference that I attended last Monday stands out as a noteworthy blessing. This conference is held annually by the First Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois. It is known as the “Conference on the Church for God’s Glory.”

My first experience with the Conference on the Church for God’s Glory came about a decade ago. At that time it was rather a small affair, as one might expect from a conference at a smaller church in a smaller city. Over the years, however, the event has grown.

Several features make this conference unique. In the first place, it is organized by a church for other churches. In a day when many conferences are sponsored by parachurch or ad hoc organizations, First Baptist has taken leadership in ministering to other congregations. It is an opportunity for pastors to speak to pastors about things that matter to churches rather than things that matter to associations, missions, or schools.

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Where did the Liberals come from?

I’m reading the extremely unsatisfying A History of Fundamentalism in America by George Dollar, and I’m wondering, where did the liberals come from? The explanations given by him and some others don’t really explain things at all. Of course, we all know continental philosophy and German critical scholarship were major influences, but why were they major influences? What opened the door for such wide-spread embrace of Liberal theology? Dollar’s account makes little sense, because he promotes circa 1880’s American evangelicalism as the pinnacle of theological health.

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Abortion and Fundamentalism, 1973

It is my contention that most evangelicals and fundamentalists (in America) did not have a firm conviction about abortion when the Roe vs. Wade ruling was first made. Issues like the creationist view of the soul vs. the traducian view were mere academics until then.

Is my memory wrong? I was debating this issue with some pastor friends and one man insisted that the fundamental world was firmly against abortion in 1973. I suggested that momentum built and by 1976, there was a consensus that abortion was wrong.

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Kevin Bauder in Salt Lake City - Foundations Conference

Reporting from a Days Inn in Salt Lake City …

Tonight at Grace Baptist Church in SLC, I had the opportunity to meet Kevin Bauder for the first time (and the first time to hear him speak). He doesn’t remind me at all of a stuffy academic (chuckling).

He tells “Three Stooges” jokes.

I thoroughly enjoyed his first session tonight on biblical inerrancy - covering the last 40 years of American evangelical history.

This is a fundamental battle that we face every day.

thinking of heart issues,

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Independent Baptist Friends International

Any thoughts on the Independent Baptist Friends International conference in Powell, TN? Did anyone attend?

Speakers included Jack Schaap, Ralph Sexton, Johnny Pope, Jack Trieber, Lou Baldwin, Bobby Roberson, Charles Keen, John Vaughan (FBF), Mike Shrock (BJU), and others. The event was sponsored by Pastor Clarence Sexton and Temple Baptist Church. Noticably absent was Sword of the Lord Editor Shelton Smith who was originally scheduled to speak.

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