Whats wrong with SBC Churches in my area?

I have been to 6 SBC churches in my area (within 20 minutes) and 5/6 of them were depleted of many or any young people in their 20’s - 30’s. Many of them had large buildings but a small flock. The more contemporary rock based churches have flocks of young people, and the Fundamentalist churches also have many young people. It seems that people either want a contemporary seeker based church or they want a separatist based church. Whats your theory as t the decline of youth in the Southern Baptist Churches?

John

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Fifty Million Rob Bell Fans Can’t Be Wrong

In 1959 RCA releasedFifty Million Elvis Fans Can’t Be Wrong—Elvis’ Gold Records Vol. 2.1 Elvis Presley was an exceptionally popular entertainer who was also one of the most controversial public figures of the late 1950s. The title of his second greatest hits album indicates a popular sentiment: It must be right, because millions of people believe it. But this sentiment does not translate to theology. Though many church fathers and theologians throughout the ages may have believed in a particular doctrine, it’s correctness is not established by that fact alone.

Rob Bell is the founding pastor of Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan and is the author of such books as Velvet Elvis, Sex God, Jesus Wants to Save Christians, and Drops Like Stars. Many evangelical Christians are familiar with his Nooma series of videos.2 Bell is influential in Emerging Church circles and is a popular speaker. Though his previous books have sold well, Love Wins is especially popular.

The twin premises of Love Wins are that God is a God of love and that the evangelical Christian view of God is too narrow. “Has God created billions of people over thousands of years only to select a few to go to heaven and everyone else to suffer forever in hell?”3 Bell asks. Love Wins challenges the traditional views concerning heaven, hell, and salvation. For the sake of brevity this review concentrates on Bell’s view of salvation.

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Discipleship Curriculum

I have been away from the forums for a while and now that I have returned things look a little different and I was unable to find the “search” function, so if this question has been asked and answered already please forgive me. Here’s my question…

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What's a reasonable expectation for prep time for teachers on an adult SS class (we call them ABF (Adult Bible Fellowships))?

Situation:



  • Suburban church

  • Reasonably well-educated people (most with college degrees (Bachelors). Many with Masters or PhDs (Various disciplines))

  • We use the Regular Baptist Press adult quarterlies for teachers

  • Class sizes vary from as small as 15 to past 50 (my class averages near 30)



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  • What is a resonable expectation for adult teachers in terms of prep time and research material?

  • From another angle: Is this reasonable?

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    New Pastor Looking for quality options in Teen Materials

    My wife and I have been called to our first (and hopefully only) senior pastorate in Elrod, IN. Part of my job will be rebuilding a teen ministry that is struggling. I simply will not have time with other responsibilities to write my own curriculum, and am looking for various materials that are strongly biblical. Does anyone have experience with RBP’s teen stuff? How about specific ProTeens studies? Any other thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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    The Christian School

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    Christian primary and secondary education (sometimes called “Christian Day School”) became popular among fundamentalists during the 1970s. While some have alleged that the Christian school movement was a response to racial integration,1 it was more likely a reaction against the increasingly vicious secularism of public education. For a generation, many Christian parents sent their children to Christian schools, even when the cost of tuition meant significant financial sacrifice.

    Over the past decade, however, most Christian schools have begun to decline. Administrators speculate about the reasons, but at least a few seem pretty obvious. These are generalizations that will not hold in every instance. Certain tendencies, however, can be observed more often than not.

    First, Christian schools have not typically produced a better academic product than public education. True, the average test scores from Christian school students are higher than those of public school students. That is partly because public schools are required to accept students (including special education students) whom Christian schools uniformly reject. Take the top ten percent of graduates from the typical Christian school, and compare them to the top ten percent of graduates from the typical public school, and you will likely find that the public school graduates are better prepared.

    A second reason that Christian schools are in decline is because they do not generally produce a better quality of Christian. Granted, the environment of a Christian school does shield its students from the most brutal influences of the secular school environment, such as rampant drug use and open promiscuity. It also grants Christianity a normative status, so that a student’s faith is not overtly and constantly under attack. Nevertheless, graduates of Christian schools do not seem to be noticeably more spiritually minded than Christian graduates of public schools. The real test is in what happens to Christian school students after they graduate. How many of them are walking with the Lord five years later? The proportions do not seem markedly higher for Christian school alumni than for other Christians of the same age.

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