Tina Anderson, Chuck Phelps Take Stand in Willis Trial

Rev Karl wrote:

With respect, humility, and all due deference to those Godly ones who have expressed some variation of the the thought "I'm glad this is over," really, it's not.

Gee, I guess it really wasn't over...

What is interesting is that the argument before the trial was "wait until the trial, we don't really know anything yet." Now that the trial is over, the argument seems to be, "Well the trial doesn't really prove anything." I understand the legal stuff, but it still does seem that we are going around in circles.

Well, now that I've fixed supper, eaten it with my family, and done a load of laundry, I can get back to the really important issues of the day. Which is currently "Why did the comments attempting to redirect Alex's comments result in this thread topic being about Alex?"

Don't answer that.

The topic is the Anderson vs Willis trial and verdict. Let's save the existentialism for another thread, and the Guggenheim Intervention for private messages.

Now that at least one of the mods has stopped goofing off by spending time with their family, this thread will be watched for further off topic comments and edited if absolutely necessary.

End of moderator note.

Bob Nutzhorn wrote:

What is interesting is that the argument before the trial was "wait until the trial, we don't really know anything yet." Now that the trial is over, the argument seems to be, "Well the trial doesn't really prove anything." I understand the legal stuff, but it still does seem that we are going around in circles.

Bob,

I was one of those who advocated for refrain until the trial was actually over, and now that it is over, I think we should discuss the ramifications of the trial, the decisions that Pastor Phelps made, and any other issues relevant to the reality of the case. I for one do not agree that "the trial didn't prove anything." I think the trial had far-reaching ramifications.

One issue I'm confused about is the entrance of David Gibbs III to argue for Phelps' notes to be kept private. Does anyone care to comment on why it would have been the right thing for Phelps to want his notes kept private. Another question I have is, "Is anyone planning to attend the FBFI Conference scheduled for June 14th-16th? If so, do you particularly plan to attend Phelp's 9:45am workshop?"

pastorwesh wrote:

Bob Nutzhorn wrote:

What is interesting is that the argument before the trial was "wait until the trial, we don't really know anything yet." Now that the trial is over, the argument seems to be, "Well the trial doesn't really prove anything." I understand the legal stuff, but it still does seem that we are going around in circles.

Bob,

I was one of those who advocated for refrain until the trial was actually over, and now that it is over, I think we should discuss the ramifications of the trial, the decisions that Pastor Phelps made, and any other issues relevant to the reality of the case. I for one do not agree that "the trial didn't prove anything." I think the trial had far-reaching ramifications.

One issue I'm confused about is the entrance of David Gibbs III to argue for Phelps' notes to be kept private. Does anyone care to comment on why it would have been the right thing for Phelps to want his notes kept private. Another question I have is, "Is anyone planning to attend the FBFI Conference scheduled for June 14th-16th? If so, do you particularly plan to attend Phelp's 9:45am workshop?"

PW, you bring up some excellent points. When you say that the trial has far reaching ramifications, I agree and think you are spot on. Your posts makes a number of good points.

Linda Phelps is also scheduled to speak at the conference you reference. http://www.fbfi.org/images/stories/tri-fold_OUTSIDE_merged-2.pdf

.....of actual events to assess guilt, even when the facts are so glaring. It makes me wonder about the motives.

With respect to Ernie Willis. It is possible for juries to get it wrong, but the basic facts of this case were pretty obvious from the start. Willis himself pleaded guilty to the charge of statutory rape. No one is hear arguing that Willis isn't guilty. So no, we don't need a video.

But this whole discussion was NEVER about that.

And that's why those who joined SI to post on this topic alone keep beating the drum.

The discussion is not about Tina, the posters for the most part could care less about her. They have bigger fish to fry.

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