High-profile Baptist church set for historic vote on same-sex marriages

“Should it pass, this motion would make clear that our ministers are free to perform the wedding of same-sex couples at our church in the same way we do couples of different sex. ... First Baptist Church of Christ is part of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship.” Telegraph

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Aaron Blumer's picture


Wikipedia on CBF...


Wiki says they are "theologically moderate"!

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Bert Perry's picture

Given that the CBF left the SBC when the SBC was re-affirming the Fundamentals and inerrancy of Scripture, one would have to infer that they are the churches that would not affirm the Fundamentals, which places them clearly in the camp of theological liberalism.

I suspect that at least a quorum of staff at the CBC knows, in light of this, that their claim to be "moderate" is a deliberate lie.  They may not admit this, but that's what it is, unless we can assume that 100% of the staff there has no theological training and knows nothing of the significance of each side of the argument. 


Also worth noting is that historically, a major avenue for theological liberalism was John D. Rockefeller via the University of Chicago and Baptist churches--newsmen note with joy that a "Baptist" church is going their way, but historically speaking, Baptists have not always been stalwart on theological orthodoxy and the Fundamentals.  So this move is not exactly a surprise, though it ought to be noted that this movement has already done some things that would have surprised Rockefeller, to put it mildly.

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pvawter's picture

I, for one, am completely shocked that a Wikipedia article would contain such a wildly inaccurate statement!


Bert Perry's picture

If you look at CBF's website, you'll see a fair number of references to "moderate" Baptists and such, so wiki isn't completely out to lunch if you consider that CBF ought to be a primary source for their own self-definitions.  The fault really lies in CBF for not owning the fact that their vaunted "moderation", which of course plays better in Peoria, is in reality a modernization of theological liberalism of the 1800s.  

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David R. Brumbelow's picture

I was involved in the SBC Conservative Resurgence.  

My definition of the SBC groups:  

1. Conservative - believes in the inerrancy of the Bible and considers it a non-negotiable. Insists SBC leaders, professors, missionaries, employees believe that God’s Word is totally true and trustworthy. Our mission money should not go to support those who believe the Bible contains errors.

2. Moderate - someone who may or may not believe in the inerrancy of the Bible. What contrasts him from conservatives, is that with him inerrancy is negotiable. A moderate will tolerate, accept, ignore, protect, maybe even welcome SBC leaders, professors, missionaries, employees who do not believe in the inerrancy of the Bible.

3. Liberal - in the context of the SBC, one who believes there are errors, or could be errors in the Bible.

4. Inerrancy - the Bible is inspired by God and is without error. It is totally true and trustworthy. This refers to the original manuscripts of the Bible, not to a particular Bible translation. “Infallible,” “totally true and trustworthy” are used synonymously with “inerrancy.”


David R. Brumbelow

PS – Please pray for those affected by Hurricane Harvey and torrential rain.  Pray for volunteers with Southern Baptist Disaster Relief, Samaritan’s Purse, and others.  

Joeb's picture

What can we expect today.  First the literal creation of our world and man in 7 24 hour days by our omnipotent God is thrown out or dumbed down and now gay relationships being accepted as the norm by more and more Christian institutions and churches.  Can our Lord's return be close. I sure hope so. 

This is  rude.  God help us all.  I don't want to be negative but every month more and more our Churches succumb. Even our own Rocks are crumbling in  Fundy/Evangelical America. This crumbling has let me down greatly as I have shared in the past.  

I know we have to put our trust in the Lord and not man, but it's very disheartening when a Circus Chimp has more of a brain then some in Christian Leadership. 

Hopefully God will use this situation in Texas to pull our Country together and stop the boloney.  Yes we should all prayer for those people.  Many have lost everything including loved ones.  Let's pray that this whole disaster will Glorify our Lord by the Christians who help our fellow man and that this whole disaster will bring many to our Lord.  Change hearts and minds through Christ. 

David R. Brumbelow's picture

For any who don’t know, Southern Baptist Disaster Relief and Samaritan’s Purse both take a strong stand against same sex marriage, and for biblical morality.  

They also present a good Christian witness in all they do.  

David R. Brumbelow