Business partner alleges affair with Falwell's wife with Jr.'s approval

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TylerR's picture

Editor

Whether Falwell is an innocent victim, or a distrubed and perverted man, he must be removed from Liberty.

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist?

JBL's picture

I can't help but be reminded of a post I saw on the Coaches Hot Seat college football blog a few years ago during the USC/Steve Sarkisian intoxication scandal.

Bottom line, the improprieties of Falwell's personal life are now the stories of Liberty University, not anything that the University is doing on its own merit.  It is time for Falwell to resign.

 

A couple of years ago a member of Coaches Hot Seat got promoted to the CEO position of a medium-sized company and as always he joined us at the annual Coaches Hot Seat Lake Tahoe Clambake in August of each year which includes a good amount of drinking in and around the general public at many different resorts, restaurants, and golf courses on the north shore of Lake Tahoe. What all of us noticed almost immediately with our long-time friend who was now the CEO of a decent-sized company was that he no longer did things in public that would reflect badly on the company he now led and one night we asked him about this and his response was perfect…

“I am the CEO of a company now and my behavior must reflect the values and expectations of employees and company I now lead.”

And a Coaches Hot Seat member added to that:  “And you don’t want to get your  a-- (edited) fired for something someone filmed or saw you do in public!”

Bottom-Line Lesson:  When you take on the position of CEO or head football coach for that matter your life is no longer just your own because you now are the public face and leader of that company or football team and if you don’t want the responsibility that comes with being the CEO or a head coach then for ----(edited) sure don’t take the job….BUT….if you do take that job have some ----(edited) class and act like a LEADER!

John B. Lee

Bert Perry's picture

What a mess....since both the Falwells and the pool boy say it's true, I think we can probably dispense with "alleged".  Probably too early to derive solid lessons on this, but I have to wonder whether one of them will be "never devote yourself so much to your business that your wife forgets who you are."  Perhaps another one "never become a major investor in a business if you'd be ashamed to have your picture taken there."  

I'm thinking a lot of stories are coming together with this, sad to say....and this is way uglier than I'd dared to think.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

TylerR's picture

Editor

Falwell needs to be away from the spotlight so he and his wife can repent and work on their spiritual lives. I'm glad he resigned, for both his and the school's sake.

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist?

Bert Perry's picture

....to how to approach this.  Given some of what I've seen--recording of him joking with the paramour about the situation, to put it mildly--he just needs to go now.

Or better yet, ten years back, but we do not have a DeLorean in the lot.....

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Jonathan Charles's picture

He's probably pushing back on resignation story because he's negotiating his departure. The board should just fire him for cause. 

TylerR's picture

Editor

Best quote from the article you shared:

“The board put me on leave, took away my duties as prez, and that’s not permitted by my contract,” Mr. Falwell said Monday night. “And they put me on leave because of pressure from self-righteous people.”

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist?

Bert Perry's picture

It strikes me that in an institution like Liberty, Falwell probably does have some protection against the actions of the board--it's fairly standard in larger institutions of higher learning with which Liberty competes for students and professors.  At my alma mater, Michigan State, two people whose actions (or lack thereof) cost the school a cool half billion bucks (and counting) in the Larry Nassar crimes got big retirement payouts--LouAnna Simon and Bill Strampel.  I'm guessing it will be similar in this case.

And like the MSU case, this is one where a lot of signs were there ahead of time.  Spending millions on a gay-friendly youth hostel in Miami with its own bar, going nightclubbing with the manager, contracting with Michael Cohen to keep photos quiet.....if you're going to protect your leadership with legal agreements typical of corporate leaders, you need to have a morals clause, and you need to keep an eye on what they're doing.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Mark_Smith's picture

If you had a good run in ministry, thinking your son is the right person to replace you almost never works out.

I graduated from Liberty. Never cared for Falwell Jr. Never lived the life of a believer as far as I could tell. I don't know why the Christian leaders at the school tolerated him other than they thought they could do damage control or cover it up. This is not the first issue with Falwell Jr. There were other sexual, as well as financial, allegations against him.

Bye Bye.

M. Osborne's picture

My pastor prays, and encourages us to, "Lord, take my life if that's what it takes to keep me from falling away." We desperately need God's grace to restrain us.

Michael Osborne
Philadelphia, PA

Jonathan Charles's picture

Mark_Smith wrote:

I graduated from Liberty. Never cared for Falwell Jr. Never lived the life of a believer as far as I could tell. I don't know why the Christian leaders at the school tolerated him other than they thought they could do damage control or cover it up. This is not the first issue with Falwell Jr. There were other sexual, as well as financial, allegations against him.

Bye Bye.

 

The way the young man describes when Mrs. Falwell first approached him, it seems as if the Falwells had an established MO.  I think the school needs to investigate Falwell, hire a law firm or those who do such a thing, to find out if there have been other immoral acts.  His tenure also needs a good financial investigation. 

TylerR's picture

Editor

A local Lynchburg reporter just tweeted this:

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist?

Bert Perry's picture

Falwell needs to understand that "Letter from a Miami brothel" won't carry quite the same cachet as "Letter from Birmingham Jail", I dare say. He's not exactly facing down Bull Connor's dogs and water cannons to establish liberty for most of the nation, to put it mildly.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Mark_Smith's picture

There are multitudinous pictures of Falwell Jr holding what appears to be alcoholic drinks in his hand. I guess it could be soda or tea, but the style of glass etc is like alcohol. I don't get how this guy lasted this long.

The man who was having the relationship with his wife and him is in many of these photos. Together with this man Falwell bought properties in Miami (and also several in Lynchburg, VA that had already caused controversy), including a "cheap beach motel" that had a liquor store on the first floor... which he paid $4.6 million for. Where did he get the money from?

How in the world was this guy the president of a fundamentalist Christian school?

Ken S's picture

$10.5 million? Write the check today and move on. Money well spent to be rid of this situation.

Bert Perry's picture

Mr. Granda, the "pool boy" said he received pictures of a student at the Falwells' farm in a state of undress.  I am going to dare say that alcohol, if involved at all, is the least of the issues Mr. Falwell is dealing with.  Note here that everything we can verify from publicly available information--the business partnership, at least one phone call, etc..--is checking out.  Time for Liberty to listen to this lady.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Jonathan Charles's picture

Falwell got ahead of this with his lie about the affair being his wife's issue alone and having nothing to do with him. She came out and vouched for his story. Yet the young man has him on tape speaking about his wife's relationship with him?  By getting his lie out, Falwell put school in position where to fire him for cause would have been risky, since it isn't clear that he played a part in the affair (though he did). While paying him a severance might be their only option at this time, why is he being kept as a consultant?  The whole ministry seems concerned about money and not morality. 

TylerR's picture

Editor

Scripture about Falwell: "It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans ..." (1 Cor 5:1).

Scripture about Liberty: "And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you," (1 Cor 5:2).

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist?

Jonathan Charles's picture

From: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Jerry-Falwell-Jr-confirms-he-has-res...

"His contract entitles him to a $10.5 million severance package, Falwell, 58, told The Washington Post late Tuesday - in part because he is departing from the university without being formally accused of or admitting to wrongdoing.

Falwell said he will receive $2.5 million over 24 months, equivalent to two years salary. He agreed to not work for a competing university during that time. After two years, he will receive $8 million in retirement. Falwell said he signed a 20-page contract in July 2019 that outlined the terms."

WHAT A LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Bert Perry's picture

Now another person has stepped forward claiming Mrs. Falwell was sexually predatory towards him.  Buckle your seatbelts and pull your barf bag from the pocket in front of you, this is going to get uglier.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Craig Toliver's picture

Bert Perry wrote:

Now another person has stepped forward claiming Mrs. Falwell was sexually predatory towards him.  Buckle your seatbelts and pull your barf bag from the pocket in front of you, this is going to get uglier.

Anyone know Becki Falwell's background?

Also do J & B have children?

Bert Perry's picture

.met when she was 13, married when Falwell Jr. was in law school.  I'd assume she grew up in a typical SBC church in North Carolina (her childhood home).

Probably way too early to start figuring out the "why" of what went on with this tragedy, but hopefully, per Jonathan Charles' comment, the school investigates what was known by deans/executives/the board, when it was known, and what, if anything, people did about the matter.  Next question is probably "if little or nothing was done, what factors were involved?"

And yes, I hope that the Falwells, whatever their sins actually are, do get help and guidance that will help them understand why they did what they did, and as they recover, maybe they can share some of that with others.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Mark_Smith's picture

before you get too sanctimonious against the Falwells you might want to check out the kind of things going on among the members of your local church, or the one down the street.

One church my wife and I attended (about 600 members) a group of single/divorced women was overheard by my lovely bride talking about how good in bed the various single/divorced men were. More than one single man told me in private they had been contacted by single women in the church for hook-ups.

So, the Falwell story may not be as uncommon as you might think.

RajeshG's picture

Mark_Smith wrote:

before you get too sanctimonious against the Falwells you might want to check out the kind of things going on among the members of your local church, or the one down the street.

One church my wife and I attended (about 600 members) a group of single/divorced women was overheard by my lovely bride talking about how good in bed the various single/divorced men were. More than one single man told me in private they had been contacted by single women in the church for hook-ups.

So, the Falwell story may not be as uncommon as you might think.

It is disgusting to hear that such immorality was taking place in that church. I hope those single men took steps to handle those wicked solicitations properly.

Bert Perry's picture

Mark, no argument that this kind of thing pops up where it is least expected--I'll leave it at that for now.  Those who seem to be spiritually quite robust fall into this, and my church has had a fairly thriving ministry to men who have been tempted sexually--mostly by pornography, but there are other things of which I'm aware.

I would also dare suggest that if the pastors can start hearing about this, they might be able to have a thriving ministry to those who have fallen into this trap as they figure out the "why" of why so many people who need the comfort of a spouse do not have this, and why they are willing to take the shortcuts.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.