Pew: Most Americans who have faced extreme weather see a link to climate change – Republicans included

“In both parties, majorities of those who have experienced one of the forms of extreme weather asked about in the survey say climate change contributed to the event. But Democrats are more likely than Republicans to say climate change contributed a lot.” - Pew

Discussion

I’ve definitely noticed warming temps where I live. Our winters have less snow (if any), and our summers are definitely hotter.

How does a warming planet contribute to all the weather anomalies the world has seen lately? I don’t know. But, I don’t rule it out.

It strikes me that with the pervasive pro-global warming press, this survey is testament merely to the power of suggestion. Researchers around the world that do work with poll data watch out for this, and a lot of studies are thrown out because the questions were seen to be too leading.

Put differently, it takes a bit of a different bird to say “you know, I’m going to take the hypothesis a bit more seriously when John Kerry and others start flying commercial instead of using private jets, and when the IPCC conducts meetings via WebEx.” It reminds me of a proverb I learned from a Sudanese friend; “your actions are screaming so loudly, I cannot hear what you are saying.”

Really, all of the actions that are being taken by political leaders on the left here—carbon credits, hybrid vehicles, etc..—are a way of saying to the rest of us that they will have their pleasures and comforts, but we will not have ours. Yeah, aristocrats have been doing that since the stone age, and that’s why we live in a Republic and not a monarchy. So we don’t need to put up with them.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

So, Darrell and Bert, you believe climate change is another hoax?

I believe that climate change is real and I believe that man made elements are a contributor to it. I am not yet convinced they are the largest yet. With that said, every time we have some kind of weather related news, the news teams always attribute it to climate change, which is not true. We had weird climate activities when I was a kid in the 70’s including extreme events. Everytime there is a drought, a flood, a rainstorm, cold extremes, hot extremes, tornados, hurricanes…. doesn’t mean every single one of them is a result of climate change. We have gotten to the point that if it is not 75 degrees, sunny and no clouds in the sky, than it is a result of climate change. Arrrgghhh!

[T Howard]

So, Darrell and Bert, you believe climate change is another hoax?

Nope!

…..is that I’m not convinced that the researchers believe it. They’re acting like the guy who responds to his doctor telling him he’s got diabetes and congestive heart failure by going to the Old Country Buffet.

My personal take is that there is likely a portion of the issue that is man-made, that it’s much less than the IPCC says for public consumption (from their private jets), and that it’s best dealt with with measures other than what the IPCC recommends, which are all top down and will tend to make the problem worse. My favored measures; stop subsidizing corn, ethanol, and electric cars (which run on coal mostly), and replace income taxes with consumption taxes like tariffs and a levee on fossil fuels. Say the equivalent of about $30/ton of carbon, which would be about a nickel per gallon of gas. It would incentivize thrift and efficiency.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

[Darrell McCarthy]

Greenland used to be green

Present day Chicago used to be covered with 1 mile thick glacier

Yup the climate has changed

Wait for the Tribulation

Looking at your link to Greenland, it said this: “The samples were dated back to between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, making them the oldest authenticated DNA obtained so far.” So, how does a YEC‘er read this? What does 450,000 years ago mean? If not a YEC‘er, does the climate 450,000 years ago mean anything today?

[Mark_Smith]

Looking at your link to Greenland, it said this: “The samples were dated back to between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, making them the oldest authenticated DNA obtained so far.” So, how does a YEC‘er read this?

A long time ago, Greenland was green.

[dgszweda] A long time ago, Greenland was green.

This

[Darrell McCarthy]
dgszweda wrote:A long time ago, Greenland was green.

This

If you don’t believe the radiochemistry that was used to measure the age, why believe the chemistry that says they found DNA?

[Mark_Smith]

If you don’t believe the radiochemistry that was used to measure the age, why believe the chemistry that says they found DNA?

If I don’t believe that humans can come back to life after death, why believe in the Resurrection?