Backlash after Eric Trump thanks dad for keeping Budweiser trans free, Colin Kaepernick out of NFL and for ‘saving God’

Nothing new here. He said the same thing in 2020.

[My father] has protected the Second Amendment. He’s literally saved Christianity. I mean, there’s a full-out war on faith in this country by the other side.

This resembles the type of thing I hear all the time living in the U.S. south, where there is still a large amount of “cultural Christianity.” Many of the people that have grown up around real Christians, in an environment that has been affected by having Christian influence around tend to speak in a semblance of Christianity, without really understanding it, thus leading to expressions like those used above about “saving God,” or “saving Christianity.”

I don’t know why we would find this so unusual. Non-Christians say non-Christian things, and if they think it will help them to seem Christian, or if they really believe that they are Christian by virtue of being “brought up Christian,” they will say things that sound Christian to them.

It just underscores the fact that most people (including most of those in public service), need our prayers, because they need the Lord. There are no Christians I know that would think because of what they have said or done that any of the Trumps are Christians. That also doesn’t keep us from rejoicing with the good those in power do manage to accomplish (along with grieving about their wrongs as well).

The unusual nature of it is that when someone says, "We've saved God", they are articulating a theology in which they are superior to God. They have articulated a theology in which God needed to be saved and that He is reliant on Trump and grateful for Trump in saving Him. What does Scripture say about someone who says that, especially a person in power? And what is the outcome of that nation? Many people in our churches feel that Trump has a special blessing from God, that he is doing God's work, so on and so on. I was less concerned when Democrats were in power, and the church was fighting the sins of this world, then the current scenario where many in the church today, and some who churches, who exalt Trump, someone who makes these kinds of statements.

>>The unusual nature of it is that when someone says, “We’ve saved God”, they are articulating a theology in which they are superior to God. They have articulated a theology in which God needed to be saved and that He is reliant on Trump and grateful for Trump in saving Him. What does Scripture say about someone who says that, especially a person in power?<<

That they are not a child of God and that their soul is in danger? God blessed Nebuchadnezzar in many ways, but humbled him when he thought himself the equal of God. First, after he made an image and required people to worship it, when God saved his true servants, Nebuchadnezzar made a proclamation about the power of God. After this incident, he recounted the incident of him becoming a beast due to his own pride, and again made proclamations about God.

I won’t argue either way about whether these led to him eventually becoming a Child of God, but God did use and bless him in spite of his pride and rebellion against God. Again, no Christian I know thinks Trump a true Christian. Trump himself has admitted that he doesn’t understand forgiveness, and that he doesn’t think he is going to make it to heaven. God can use him as he uses all who are in power as he has throughout history, but I would still rather be under those who at least acknowledge God (however imperfectly) than those who even more strongly oppose him.

I know some people argue differently, as you do above, that Christians may be better off under leaders who make their opposition to God obvious. Perhaps it might make it easier to tell who is a true Christian vs. who isn’t, but that doesn’t mean it’s better all around for those living under such rulers, Christian or not.

God can use him as he uses all who are in power as he has throughout history, but I would still rather be under those who at least acknowledge God (however imperfectly) than those who even more strongly oppose him.

It confuses me that there are some who seem to think we are more virtuous if we promote those who vocally oppose God.

Most of the Christians I know who support Trump compare him to Cyrus. They do not think he is saved but are thankful that God is using him to promote policies that benefit God's people.

The comparison of Trump to Cyrus is the work of Dr. Mike Evans, as he and others have sought to cast Trump in light of some type of Biblical prophetic revelation. I don't think he is anything like Cyrus, but I guess anyone can have their opinion.

What I find surprising is that so many Christians are willing to brush off the terrible things that Trump says about God, and instead brush it under the guise, that "God still uses imperfect people". Well yeah, no kidding. But the fact that the church will not denounce what Scripture denounces out of some concern that Trump is somehow worse than Candidate X. Why was the church so concerned about not getting Kamela elected, if at the end of the day God uses Kamela, Biden, Obama....

>>But the fact that the church will not denounce what Scripture denounces out of some concern that Trump is somehow worse than Candidate X. Why was the church so concerned about not getting Kamela elected, if at the end of the day God uses Kamela, Biden, Obama….<<

You keep talking about churches being all in on Trump and opposed more to Democrats than what the Bible opposes. Actually, you said “the church,” as if that applies more in general than in the particular.

I’m curious which churches you have attended (at least those within the circles of SI readers) would not denounce what scripture denounces, whether it affects Trump, Harris, or anyone else? Or would not commend what the Bible commends if it was done by a Democrat? At the churches I have been a part of in the last 30 years or so, sermons did not focus on Trump or Harris, or any other political candidate either, and in fact, they weren’t mentioned at all except sometimes in a passing comment. Sin, including pride, infidelity, corruption, etc. all been have been preached against, and biblical virtues (e.g. love, joy, peace, longsuffering, etc.) have been commended.

In churches I know, it’s well understood that political candidates of any stripe are mostly not good examples of Christian living, so they are not held up that way. However, we are taught to apply the scriptures to daily living, and then we can use our own judgment which candidate is the better choice, even knowing that this is almost always not a choice between a true Christian and an unbeliever. This is not always an easy task, but if we are to be salt and light, it’s an essential one. The fact that you might come to a different conclusion about any particular candidate is not an indication that the rest of us are either turning our brains off or getting behind a political figure as our Messiah.