“One worship tradition over another is not the test of genuine worship. Both can be fake. Enthusiasm is not a measure either.” - P&D
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“One worship tradition over another is not the test of genuine worship. Both can be fake. Enthusiasm is not a measure either.” - P&D
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NewEmotions
It’s a thoughtful article. A lot of good points.
Is it biblical to say emotions are “incidental” though? Like the author, I’ve seen some worship music disasters (from my point of view) that resulted from “emotions-first” assumptions. Worship as a feeling, etc.
But since my personal musical reboot a few years ago, I’ve been thinking a bit differently. Why is there music at all? Why are worship poems set to music and sung at all? One seemingly obvious answer is that singing unites text with beauty and feeling. So, worship is not a feeling, but we are supposed to feel when we worship—especially during the singing part. And if emotion is inherent in the purpose of setting words to music, emotion is more than incidental.
What I actually do as a worship leader, though, is sort of choke back my own emotions. I tend to be suddenly overwhelmed, which doesn’t go well with leading. So I’m pretty sure I indirectly feed a ‘cognitive over emotive’ vibe. I don’t know how to avoid that.
But theologically speaking, I’m not persuaded that ‘cognitive over emotive’ is really what God had in mind for worship music.
(Is it just me, or are the Psalms frequently very emotional? It’s clearly emotion tethered to truth, driven by truth, though.)
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
NewGod expresses emotions
It’s clear from scripture that man expresses emotions because God made us in his image, and he expresses emotions. And, I agree with Aaron that music adds emotion to the text. It’s probably a tough balance to not lead with emotion, but with the truth. However, there’s a reason we are saved when we “believe in [our] heart that God hath raised Him from the dead,” not believe in our heads. The will is more important, but emotions follow. Salvation and worship are not purely intellectual exercises.
I haven’t led music often, though I do sing regularly in the choir, and like Aaron, I do have to detach somewhat from the emotion in the song to avoid getting choked up by the emotional expression. I worry about that less when I’m in the congregation or any other setting where I’m not helping to lead the music.
I also find the Psalms to be very emotional, sometimes surprisingly so. Even though they end with truth, there are a lot of places where frustration or despair come out first.
Dave Barnhart
NewA couple of things to add
First, it's important to remember that there are at least two sets of Hebrew/Greek words for "worship"; one meaning to prostrate one's self, the other meaning to serve. We might do a lot of good if we differentiated the two; I'd argue that what we're doing when we sing in church is primarily praise, not prostration. Let's let our language reflect this.
Second, and related to the first, we need to understand what is going on as we sing; it is partially praise to God, and partially didactic. And so a key test for music in the church is whether it coherently allows those in attendance to return praise and have the Word of God imparted to their hearts and minds. That would defuse a lot of the debates over old music/new music right there, IMO.
And good points by Aaron and Dave about the emotions that ought to arise as we reflect His Word in song. We can get overcome, but at the same time, we ought not be totally afraid of our own emotions.
Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.
NewWords
There are different words with different nuances/connotations. In actual usage, though, their meanings overlap quite a lot, which is why translations usually use the word “worship,” and lexicons also. In the lexicons, most list ‘worship’ as the primary meaning and kneel or bow or whatever the connotations might be, as secondary ideas.
In the NT, there are two main words: proskuneo and latreuo. (For those who enjoy Greek in Greek characters προσκυνέω and λατρεύω). Proskuneo is by far the most used word in the NT: 51 of the 81 occurrences of “worship” in ESV. Latreuo is used 11 times, then you have about 8 other words (a couple of which are close cousins to the big two) for the rest.
Some lexical stuff on them…
Proskuneo. Most of what I have lists ‘worship’ as primary and some variant of bowing down as secondary.
BAGD goes right to bowing down…
Latreuo.
I love this word. We don’t really have an English equivalent, I don’t think. Or our English equivalents tend to come with baggage (and be missing other baggage) that get us thinking wrong about what is meant.
It is usually translate serve/serving in the English translations, but…
That’s the whole BAGD entry in my edition. Shorter than most, but still a lot to unpack.
Anyway, if I have a point it’s this: In the contexts that these words appear, the English Bibles are generally doing a good job of choosing when to translate them ‘worship’ or something else, but we do lose some nuance, and sometimes it’s worth it to try to recover that in our study and teaching—because it puts things in a different and better light, though the core idea is not altered.
Edit: Let’s make this already too long post longer… 😀
I do think a lot can be accomplished through “internal bounding.” That is, by tethering our choices to principles and understandings rather than rules (externally bounded).
I’m not sure how much of the debate is old vs new though. I guess the musical style debates tend to correlate with old vs new. We do tend to assume what we are used to is good and what we are not used to is suspect. I would say it should all be suspect, in a sense. It’s all human, so… all that that implies. At the same time, it should all not be suspect because it is only human, and all that that implies.
What I feel like I see a lot of is thoughtless suspicion/rejection and thoughtless lack of suspicion/acceptance… based almost entirely on familiarity and unfamiliarity. I value tradition, though, and lean toward thinking our predecessors were not being idiots when they made the stylistic choices they made. Still, just humans in a fluid context.
Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.