Dems freak out over Biden’s debate performance: ‘Biden is toast’

“President Joe Biden opened the debate with a raspy voice and disjointed, rambling answers, reigniting Democratic concerns about his age and ability to take on former President Donald Trump.” - Politico

Related:

  • A halting Biden tries to confront Trump at debate but stirs Democratic anxiety about his candidacy - AP
  • Democrats Panic After Devastating Biden Performance - TAC

Discussion

The 2 candidates reflect the personality of the country. Not Inspiring. Not A Debate, only Personal Attacks.

The Repub Convention will be boring, except for probable protests.

The Dem Convention will be interesting to watch.

Wally Morris
Huntington, IN

Both candidates are God's judgment on our country. We are getting the leaders we deserve.

Completely embarrassing debate all the way around. Very little substance from either side, and the bickering over a golf handicap was absolutely ridiculous. They looked like two 80 year old second graders.

Democrats are right to be worried about Biden. He appears to be declining rapidly and I'll be somewhat surprised if he is still alive by the time this next presidential term ends.

It was bad. I cannot understand why the Democratic establishment rallies around Biden. I am not even sure he knows where he is half the time. Have mercy on the guy and tell him to go home. I was surprised at the civility of Trump compared to other debates. It was like watching two really old guys in a retirement home arguing without a clue as to what is going on around them. If it keeps going like this, Trump will win by a landslide. I just wish Trump would move back away from the fringe, get a grip on how things work and he could actually be a pretty decent president.

The news media keeps highlighting the massive amount of lies that Trump told last night. But in the end 1) most politicians are always telling half truths as they are always presenting a slant or their take on something, and 2) lies or no lies, at least 50% of the country feels aligned to Trump's sentiment on how things are, even if the numbers or statements he makes are off. Even if he was off on the number of immigrants that are criminal, I don't think it matters too much of the nation. They see the immigration problem as a threat. Whether you are accurate on the number of criminals, the amount of drugs.... it doesn't matter. It is all conflated with a threat. They see a threat, and you can paint it with any picture you would like.

Worth reading, at The Dispatch (from a few months ago, but now with new relevance).

The American People Should Demand Better: How The Dispatch is thinking about a Trump-Biden rematch.

Joe Biden ran for president four years ago promising to rise above the partisan rancor of the day and to “draw on the best of us, not the worst.” In his inaugural address, he said his “whole soul” was in “uniting our people” and “uniting our nation.”

He hasn’t governed that way.

In early 2021, President Biden demagogued Georgia’s new election law—which coincided with record voter turnout the following year—as “Jim Crow 2.0.” He’s openly bragged about his administration’s efforts to circumvent Supreme Court rulings, and he’s embraced extreme abortion positions that he’d opposed his entire career. Democrats’ profligate spending in 2021 and 2022 didn’t cause the rampant inflation we’ve all been living with for years, but even progressive economists now admit that White House-backed legislation exacerbated it. Biden’s approach to the border and immigration policy has been confused and ineffective, and the weakness he’s projected on the world stage—starting with his disastrous decision to withdraw from Afghanistan and cede the nation to the Taliban—has empowered or emboldened strongmen and terrorist organizations around the globe. As the Houthis’ ongoing attacks in the Red Sea demonstrate, under Biden, the United States is more afraid of escalation than a group of ragtag militias is.

Yet, Biden’s worst act as president may very well be his stubborn refusal to step aside.

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We make no apologies for our classical liberal worldview and believe this country desperately needs a healthy conservatism to deal with the many challenges it faces. But the overlap in a Venn diagram of conservatism and capital-R Republicanism has never been smaller. Any policy victories stemming from a second Trump presidency would be pyrrhic, either undone by the electoral backlash that is sure to follow or overshadowed by the authoritarian bent of his administration. What good are “conservative” gains if “conservatism” is defined today by loyalty to Donald Trump and tomorrow by the febrile musings of Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller?

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

I am no fan of Biden, but the Dispatch kind of clowds some things:

  • No politician is going to easily get through the partisanship walls that have been created.
  • Government spending has been one of the biggest contributors to inflation. It is a bit MBA101. Trump spent way more than Biden did, although Biden hasn't helped.
  • The Afghanistan withdrawl was setup by Trump in an agreement and he drew down the troops from 13,000 to 2,500. Yes, Biden pulled out the last bit that created all of the TV foder. But the collapse of Afghanistan was 20 years in the making.
  • The US should be afraid of escalation. When has any mideast conflict resulted in some kind of benefit. Instead it sucks us and money into a neverending vacuum machine.

The fact is that both of these bozos have made a mess of the situation.

It was bad. I cannot understand why the Democratic establishment rallies around Biden. I am not even sure he knows where he is half the time. Have mercy on the guy and tell him to go home. I was surprised at the civility of Trump compared to other debates. It was like watching two really old guys in a retirement home arguing without a clue as to what is going on around them. If it keeps going like this, Trump will win by a landslide. I just wish Trump would move back away from the fringe, get a grip on how things work and he could actually be a pretty decent president.

The news media keeps highlighting the massive amount of lies that Trump told last night. But in the end 1) most politicians are always telling half truths as they are always presenting a slant or their take on something, and 2) lies or no lies, at least 50% of the country feels aligned to Trump's sentiment on how things are, even if the numbers or statements he makes are off. Even if he was off on the number of immigrants that are criminal, I don't think it matters too much of the nation. They see the immigration problem as a threat. Whether you are accurate on the number of criminals, the amount of drugs.... it doesn't matter. It is all conflated with a threat. They see a threat, and you can paint it with any picture you would like.

Excellent comments above. A number of media sources have been telling us that Biden was very mentally competent. I think it is time to admit that those media sources do not have any credibility. I believe that once you come to that realization you will start to view things much differently.

The interesting thing about the media and Biden's mental state is that they have been blaming the clips that we have all seen as manipulated video. Snippets taken out of context or stitched together. And there is probably a bit of truth there. But last night was live and unedited and there is really nothing you can say about it. The fact that all of these Democrat insiders are now freaking out, you kind of have to ask the question, Where have they been the last year? What is worse is that we are not just voting on a president in how he performs today, but how he needs to perform in the next 5 years. You can see how much he has changed in the last 4 years. I can't imagine he would be even comprehensible in 5 years. It is like watching one of your very old frail grandparents as they continue to decline in health. It was actually a bit sad watching him. I know that Trump jabbed him a few times, but it almost looked like Trump felt bad for him.

I know that Trump jabbed him a few times, but it almost looked like Trump felt bad for him.


That is kind of what is a bit confusing about Trump. As I listen to his speeches he often sounds compassionate and unifying and then he will suddenly come across as very rude. Of course his rude statements make headlines while Biden's just as rude statements often do not. I go back to a statement I keep making over and over. I am so excited for Christ to return and rule and reign. Finally, we will then have a leader that I can look up to.

Those "surprised" by what happened during the presidential debacle Thursday night are either willfully ignorant or completely dishonest.

The senility and dementia have been obvious for years. It was obvious in 2020. It's just more pronounced now. If you were paying attention, you knew this. If you restrict your "news" intake to the legacy, drive-by media, you purposely chose to be gaslit by the likes of "Morning Joe" and his ilk.

You could have and should have seen this coming from a mile away. Our country is in danger because of this man and those who cover for him, minimize his actions, make excuses for him and enable him - some who post frequently to SI. There's no way he is going to be the Democrat nominee.

Anyone on the right could have and should have seen this coming. We had other, younger, more conservative, more principled options. Options who have a very recent track record of winning over Democrats with his common-sense brand of conservatism. Someone who took a deep purple state and in 4 years transformed it to deep red.

If we get a Newsom/Trump matchup in the general, I'm not optimistic. It could have been so much different. But we're getting what we deserve.

The interesting thing about the media and Biden's mental state is that they have been blaming the clips that we have all seen as manipulated video. Snippets taken out of context or stitched together. And there is probably a bit of truth there.

We were talking about the supposed "deep fakes" and how some were suggesting that conservatives were just pushing pause to make it look like Joe Biden was freezing up. I can't remember if it was my wife or teenage son who said, "that doesn't explain how other people in the video kept moving." Once you start looking at the media like Bereans and stop just accepting Aaron's list of trusted media sources... Once you start looking at the media like Bereans, it will affect your whole political outlook. BTW, you need to look at conservative media like Bereans as well. I think it is a bit risky for us to try to give a list of trusted media sources in this current environment.

It's expensive, but I'm not willing to stop my subscription to the "Wall Street Journal." I find it to be the most consistently trustworthy in the print media field. Dittos with "World" magazine from a Christian perspective. No publication is perfect, but these two really help me with insight into what's going on in the world.

G. N. Barkman