Dr. Kent Hovind SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT- I'm getting married!

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Jim's picture

1 Corinthians 7:10-11, " Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband. But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife."

Of course Kent has already rejected Romans 13:6-7

 

Ron Bean's picture

I watched some of his video. When she said she knew him "pretty good", it confirmed my suspicions. I wonder what the Bee will do with this example of foolishness.

"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan

Bert Perry's picture

He's got a 28 minute video out responding to critics of his marriage video.  

One would wonder what it would take before Hovind realizes that he's not fit for the ministry anymore, and what it will take before his followers will walk away from him.  Apparently divorce, hasty remarriage (if the divorce is even final yet), incarceration, and a bevy of other improprieties with his "ministry" is not enough.  

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Larry's picture

Moderator

Taking the person and all his surrounding issues out of it, the issue here doesn't seem all that difficult if he is telling the truth.

His wife left him against his desire and in spite of his appeal. Under 1 Cor 7:15, he is not bound. There is some debate about what he is not bound to, but it is most reasonable that he is not bound to the marriage. He is free. Couple that with the command that it is better to marry than to burn (1 Cor 7:9) and the instruction that one who has been released from a wife is not sinning if he marries (1 Cor 7:28-29), it seems that he is within the biblical framework for marriage. He may not be within the biblical framework of requirements for ministry (for a variety of reasons including this one).

None of that is to say he should get remarried or should be in the ministry. 

Ron Bean's picture

My personal experience with Hovind is that he and the truth are not close friends. He is a master truth bender. It's one of the reasons he was in jail. 

He exercised his authority as a husband to get his wife to assist him in his illegal behavior and she went to jail for this. I would venture the assertion that he likely tried to repeat this and she might have refused to "submit to his authority" resulting in her leaving him. The fact is that she waited for him for around 10 years.

"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan

GregH's picture

I personally think he is free to remarry though he may want to wait until the divorce is final Smile However, I have to say I am crying from laughing so hard at this response to his critics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVrvEDG9tfM

There is so much to laugh at here: the song and musicians, the quality of his video, the insulation on the unfinished walls, etc. But mostly, the irony that he is stabbing his ultra-conservative fans in the back by doing this and then calling them hypocrites and Pharisees.

I can see a future for him selling cars or insurance but as far as his creation stuff goes, this has to be the end of the road.

Larry's picture

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My personal experience with Hovind is that he and the truth are not close friends. He is a master truth bender. It's one of the reasons he was in jail. 

I don't have any personal experience and watching a few minutes of that video (I didn't watch all of it) was all I have ever heard from him. That's why I prefaced my comments with the desire to take the particular person out of it and just talk about the issue of divorce and remarriage itself. 

He exercised his authority as a husband to get his wife to assist him in his illegal behavior and she went to jail for this. I would venture the assertion that he likely tried to repeat this and she might have refused to "submit to his authority" resulting in her leaving him. The fact is that she waited for him for around 10 years.

May well be. I didn't know that. Of course, I don't know much about it at all other than it was tax evasion of some sort. And the fact that the woman is marrying is involved in the antivaccine movement doesn't give me a lot of confidence in her judgment either. 

 

Bert Perry's picture

GregH, I hope you're right and he's done, but I'm (admittedly cynically) guessing that the same crowd that overlooked Hovind's other issues is going to overlook this, too.  He'll be limping on and embarrassing us for a while.

Your comment on his marriage being perhaps plausibly Biblical also raises a question for me; does our acceptance of a second marriage in a believer (if Hovind is a believer--I've got my doubts) depend at a certain point on the circumstances of the ending of the first?  I would tend to say that it does.  Person is "traded in on a younger model" and there is clear adultery (or perhaps serious abuse/abandonment), that's one thing.  Abuser/abandoner/adulterer?  There's another--you want to step in if only to protect the intended second spouse.

I tend to think Hovind is closer to the latter category from the evidence around him, though I can't prove it thoroughly. 

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

GregH's picture

Bert Perry wrote:

GregH, I hope you're right and he's done, but I'm (admittedly cynically) guessing that the same crowd that overlooked Hovind's other issues is going to overlook this, too.  He'll be limping on and embarrassing us for a while.

Your comment on his marriage being perhaps plausibly Biblical also raises a question for me; does our acceptance of a second marriage in a believer (if Hovind is a believer--I've got my doubts) depend at a certain point on the circumstances of the ending of the first?  I would tend to say that it does.  Person is "traded in on a younger model" and there is clear adultery (or perhaps serious abuse/abandonment), that's one thing.  Abuser/abandoner/adulterer?  There's another--you want to step in if only to protect the intended second spouse.

I tend to think Hovind is closer to the latter category from the evidence around him, though I can't prove it thoroughly. 

I believe that if someone is divorced for Biblical acceptable reasons, it is by default Biblically acceptable for them to remarry. If he was "abandoned," yes I think he can remarry.

Jonathan Charles's picture

1.  They deserve each other.

2.  It'll end in divorce, because I'm sure he's crazier than she is they rushed into this.

Jim's picture

Jonathan Charles wrote:

1.  They deserve each other.

2.  It'll end in divorce, because I'm sure he's crazier than she is they rushed into this.

If there were a vaccine for Hovinditis she wouldn't take it 

SamH's picture

No, really, who? Why (oh why) is this "news?"

SamH

Bert Perry's picture

SamH wrote:

No, really, who? Why (oh why) is this "news?"

Big news, maybe or maybe not, but it's worth noting here because it shows "our tribe" who we are; people who will sometimes overlook some pretty nasty character traits in a man when we want to see him in a pulpit.  

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

SamH's picture

I get that. Sat in on his lectures years ago in metro Detroit area. If he were still, as you put it "a player in YE Creationism" and had made some significant statement or written some significant article, or admitted his guilt or the like, that seems like something worth reporting. But as you said he "has been" which is different than "is."  But I am wasting bytes here, so I will stop curmudgeoning... 

 

SamH

AndyBoni's picture

My four children enjoyed listening to his presentations when they were growing up, and benefited from them. His sarcasm was too strong at times but he had some good content. This new chapter has unfortunately showcased so many unchristian attitudes. Apart from the issue itself (marriage and divorce), there is a lot of pride and arrogance on both sides of the table. The Lord is not being honored and many who are already against the Gospel are having quite the feast. It's very sad.

Andy Bonikowsky

Joeb's picture

If his followers can forgive him and accept Ken and his new wife where they are.  Also based on Greg H's statement that the marriage is biblical.  Is not that a positive statement for the tribe?   You see it in the news all the time where a child is murdered and the parents who are believers forgive the guilty one and even advocate for the guilty one not to get the death penalty.  

My question is if Ken is not going to be a Pastor per say but just an evangelist/creationist speaker does his remarriage bar him from doing this?  As a Christian I support what the bible literally says about creation ie 7 days etc.  If his core message is this and he is leading people to Christ who are we to say he is wrong.  If Ken has learned his lesson God can still use him and perhaps in a mighty way.   

 

Ron Bean's picture

My advice is not to assume that Hovind is telling the whole truth. He has proven himself to be untrustworthy and manipulative and those of us who are young earth six day believers do not need this kind of endorsement. His wife and son's side of the story remains untold.

"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan