Daniel Darling Fired from NRB After Pro-Vaccine Remarks
“The ministry’s former spokesman had appeared in national media explaining why he as a Christian trusts the COVID-19 vaccine.” - C.Today
Related at National Review: Here’s What Got Evangelical Pastor Dan Darling Fired
C.Post: NRB fires spokesman Dan Darling for violating vaccine-neutral policy: ‘Sad and disappointed’
RNS: NRB spokesman Dan Darling fired after pro-vaccine statements on ‘Morning Joe’
We went Bonkers because our President lied to us about it. The Left then ran with it big time because they knew the truth about Covid and weaponized that truth. That’s what caused Trump’s people to go BONKERS along with the Christian Right. The battle Royal was on and is still on.
In regards to Donald I listen podcasts even some left wing podcasters admit that if Trump showed sympathy and empathy for the COVID dying and jumped into the Masks supporting them BIDEN would never have won. NEVER. Even a halfway effort would have worked for Trump but he cut his own throat by going with the crazies. I believe his one campaign Manager tried to get Trump to do that but the NUTS on his staff shouted down that campaign manager and had him removed. That was the end for DONALD.
In regards to the Gentleman losing his job for saying he was provax I have to say if his Employer did not want their employees commenting in any way then that’s what he signed up for. It’s the employers business or non profit whatever. You follow the rules of the entity paying you or go elsewhere.
Note: Aaron I’d make a perfect example for your case study
Certainly “The Donald” had something to do with it, but let’s put Fauci and the Democrats on the spot, too. It wasn’t Trump who decided to shut down the rest of the economy while sending COVID patients into nursing homes, for example, and it wasn’t the Republicans that were (at least initially) saying that they would never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s leadership. Both sides of the aisle (I’d argue more on the port side) were playing political games with peoples’ lives, really.
Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.
Read both of these articles this morning.
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/the-great-ivermectin…
We have a media blackout on how India used cheap Ivermectin to obliterate the Delta variant while we struggle unsuccessfully to sell the public on problematic yet profitable vaccines.
https://aapsonline.org/aaps-letter-to-ama-re-ivermectin-and-covid/
The AMA is thus contradicting the professional judgment of a very large number of physicians, who are writing about 88,000 prescriptions per week. It also contradicts the Chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association, Haruo Ozaki, who recommended that all doctors in Japan immediately begin using Ivermectin to treat COVID.
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[Bert Perry]Certainly “The Donald” had something to do with it, but let’s put Fauci and the Democrats on the spot, too. It wasn’t Trump who decided to shut down the rest of the economy while sending COVID patients into nursing homes, for example, and it wasn’t the Republicans that were (at least initially) saying that they would never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s leadership. Both sides of the aisle (I’d argue more on the port side) were playing political games with peoples’ lives, really.
Even though I’m a Never Trumper the Left saw an opening when Trump foolishly handled COVID. The left weaponized that to great success. It put Biden in the Whitehouse. The Moderate Republicans in the Suburbs turned on Trump. Plus a larger African American turn out. The African American community did not like Killary. That’s the only reason Trump got in the Whitehouse.
Yeah, but everyone knows these are just ignorant rubes using a horse dewormer in order to stick it to the American Left.
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[JohnBrian]Read both of these articles this morning.
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/the-great-ivermectin-…
We have a media blackout on how India used cheap Ivermectin to obliterate the Delta variant while we struggle unsuccessfully to sell the public on problematic yet profitable vaccines.
https://aapsonline.org/aaps-letter-to-ama-re-ivermectin-and-covid/
The AMA is thus contradicting the professional judgment of a very large number of physicians, who are writing about 88,000 prescriptions per week. It also contradicts the Chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association, Haruo Ozaki, who recommended that all doctors in Japan immediately begin using Ivermectin to treat COVID.
It’s always strange to me how quickly people latch on to narratives involving medical professionals suppressing helpful medical treatments. Why would they do that?
I’m not saying it’s impossible, but for the most part, these are people who’s careers are dedicated to advancing health as they see it. So, it’s way more likely that they’ll simply be incorrect about a health issue than that they want to suppress something helpful. But the former is also quite unlikely as far as baseline probability goes.
I think the idea of baseline probability is where much of the dialog goes awry. Seems like there are two starting points/two perceptions of how likely an explanation is before even getting to evidence.
- It’s probable that lots of medical professionals want people to be sick, so they’re acting against helpful treatments
- It’s probably that lots of medical professionals want to cure people of diseases, so they’re acting to promote helpful treatments
I’m in the second group. So I don’t need evidence that they’re right, generally. I would need evidence that they’re wrong—also factoring in that they’ve studied these things for years and years and I haven’t!
This just seems like common sense to me. But it’s inreasingly uncommon it seems.
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Aaron, I also don’t want to believe that people are ignoring viable options, but the reality is that during this epidemic, certain options have been flat out ignored, and some of these options are ones where the mistakes arguably cost tens/hundreds of thousands of lives.One case of this is the failure to point out that sending COVID patients into nursing homes is pretty much homicide. Another is the case with ivermectin. Here’s some actual NIH data that suggests a hugely reduced risk of death when it’s used.
Another thing that may be huge is that it’s becoming clear that the NIH, through an intermediary, did in fact fund gain of function research at WIV using virii that are at least very similar to COVID-19.
If the errors all seem to go one way, perhaps there’s a reason for that.
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Given I’m not a doctor, I found this article on the good, bad, and ugly of Ivermectin to be a pretty balanced take:
https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2021/09/08/lessons_from_the_i…
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[Bert Perry]Aaron, I also don’t want to believe that people are ignoring viable options, but the reality is that during this epidemic, certain options have been flat out ignored, and some of these options are ones where the mistakes arguably cost tens/hundreds of thousands of lives.One case of this is the failure to point out that sending COVID patients into nursing homes is pretty much homicide. Another is the case with ivermectin. Here’s some actual NIH data that suggests a hugely reduced risk of death when it’s used.
Another thing that may be huge is that it’s becoming clear that the NIH, through an intermediary, did in fact fund gain of function research at WIV using virii that are at least very similar to COVID-19.
If the errors all seem to go one way, perhaps there’s a reason for that.
First, the errors do not all go one way.
Second, funding of gain of function research… Not relevant.
Third, if someone tells me they’re getting a 403 error on a website and as I’m trying to help them, they suggest rebooting their PC, I “ignore”the idea. “Ignoring” an idea, is often the result of already knowing better, or at least the result of knowing that an idea has such an extremely low probability of effectiveness it should go to the bottom of the list of things to try. It’s not like we have infinite resources for trying ideas in a rigorous way that accurately measures effectiveness.
For the most part on the covid-19 problem, the ignorers among medical professionals are on the right track.
But for those who are absolutely convinced that I’m wrong, please explain to me what would motivate that. I just can’t come up with realistic motives for truly ignoring a possible cure that actually has a reasonable chance of success.
I suspect that “ignoring” is hyperbole, because those who are decision makers in these roles gave the matter every bit as much thought and attention as it deserved, but those already in love with the idea didn’t see it as enough… Which equals “ignoring” in the sort of rhetoric that dominates the topic these days.
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I heard the the head Dr for a group of Hospitals in Idaho speak about the recent order to ration care due to Covid. Being that rationing area is pretty much Lilly White and TRUMPERS I have to say it certainly reflects what’s going on in the other Red States. The Dr said 100 % of his ICU Beds are full of Unvaxed patients. The Dr said that the reason Idaho is in this situation is these people didn’t get Vaxed when they had plenty of opportunity to do so. The Dr pointed out that everyone who is not vaxed should get vaxed because if you come to the hospital now you can’t get treatment if your critical.
My brother who lives in Charleston S Carolina had to take his wife to the emergency room. The Emergency Room was swamped with Covid Patients. My brother said they almost were told to leave. My sister-in-law had a large kidney stone she couldn’t pass and was in tremendous pain. On Wednesday this week they used the Laser to bust it up.
So how is it fair that when people with heart attacks strokes and car accidents whatever get denied treatment because of foolish actions by Trumper Antivaxers. Plus what I have read is these people especially the TRUMPERS are very demanding and angry when they come in. I mean really. That one Republican Pastor Antivaxer in FL is now in the hospital with Covid fighting for his life along that Pastor Miles Trump Pastor. That one Pastor said terrible things about FAUCI constantly. Again why should these people get any treatment ahead of an innocent.
However the medical professionals have to treat anyone no matter what. That’s how it works and I understand that. I will say in Florida or Texas if an innocent has to take s 50 G out of pocket Air Ambulance ride due Unvaxed Covid Patients overwhelming the healthcare system the STATE TAXPAYERS should foot the bill. Again how is it fair.
In Pittsburgh PA a story came in that a Family of Antivaxers threatened violence against the County Corner of he/she put that the Unvaxed family member died of COVID. Wow. You go from maiming 60 cops for life for DONALD to threatening Corners just doing their jobs. It’s unbelievable and this whole affair is mostly Unvaxed TRUMPERS fault and a good number of them are White Evangelical TRUMPERS.
Even the Alabama Republican Woman Governor whose a BJU grad spoke out in a very angry way about Antivaxers. This Governor blamed them for what was happening in Alabama and said it’s US the Vaxed against them the Unvaxed. No longer towing the Right Wing Line that the Foolish GOVENORS of Texas and Florida are. Even Trump complained they were killing his voters.
Oh yeah the new Proud Boys targets are school boards teachers and students over masks mandates and vaxing.
I read today that based on a 1905 US Supreme Court case Biden has the power to mandate vaxing. However those fine Trumper Republicans like the whack jobs Boebert Greene and Cauthorne call Biden’s moves illegal. Greene basically told people to shoot the health officials that come to your house for vaxing purposes.
So SI people I predict within two years Trump will be back in the Whitehouse as a Mullah for life of the New Evangelical Christian Caliphate that the Christian Right so desperately pines for. Problem is there will be a lot of Blood Shed and dead Democrats. When Trump’s White Supremacist Thugs get a hold of AOC they will do unspeakable things to her and kill her.
Joe, your rhetoric is ramping up beyond what is healthy. I, too, find it hard not to demonize those here who supported Biden in the last election.
But ya gotta calm down, man.
Dan, I don’t remember reading anyone who “supported Biden during the last election.” I know there were some, such as myself, who did not support Trump but I don’t remember anyone actually advocating for Biden.
I acknowledge that you see a distinction.
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