The Master’s University and Seminary Appoints Dr. Sam Horn President

Seems to be more gossip and possible slander going on in this discussion than certainty of facts. Be Careful. I’m not a fan of some of what Horn did at BJU, but he (and MacArthur) deserve respect and benefit of doubt until facts established.

[Mark_Smith]

We have the announcement, and the chapel service audio clip. From those we know:

-Sam Horn resigned.

-TMU says he was asked to resign due to issues with being mean-spirited.

From that the majority posting here at SI KNOW… KNOW mind you, that the virtuous, cherubic Sam Horn arrived at TMU to fix the evil, selfish, authoritarian dictatorship run by Johnny Mac, but was driven out by his hoods.

If you have proof, let me know. Otherwise realize you have an opinion, not the facts. You might be right. You might be wrong. How about we wait until we know?

Mark, with respect, we do know more than that. Would you regard the WASC report about TMU as facts we already know, or was the WASC team plainly a satanic attack on an institution run in Christ-like love and integrity, as was claimed by the President at the time?

And is it not to be factored in what the TMU board said about Dr. Horn’s character when they hired him as facts in evidence? A view of him supported by many mature believers who have known him well, and worked with him for decades? Suddenly, after years at other institutions and churches, he is not qualified to be an elder? Those who know him well say the claim that he is “mean-spirited” is simply not the man they know.

My experience with Dr. Horn, though brief, led me to see him as exceptionally able and a man with a character and manner much to be admired.

There are fact patterns here beyond what you say is all we know.

I do agree with you we should know the whole story and not rush to judgment. I hope non-disclosure agreements are not in play so we can learn more than we know now.

or attacking them either. I do not know Sam I Am, nor do I toot his Horn. (sad Sr. Suese there) Seriously though, I do not know Sam Horn nor do I know John MacArthur, Abner Chou, nor anyone else on the TMU board. I am sure they are all good men.

I do not think MacArthur is above reproach.

I have no problem investigating this situation.

I do not think “Satan” in the form of the WASC attacked TMU.

I just know that no one here knows what happened. I ask for patience.

Mark, I agree we don’t know everything, and that’s fair. What’s also fair, though, is that a number of us have been through fundamental defenestrations before, and what we’re seeing here checks a lot of the same boxes we’ve seen before. Hence we are suspicious that something is amiss, which is also the same thing I’d infer from what you pulled from Julie Roys’ site—that a separation of TMS and TMC/U with TMS getting the kitty and MacArthur getting the reins back to TMS would seem to be a pillaging of the donations of TMU contributors and a side run around the accrediting board.

And the relative silence we’ve heard from both sides of the dispute doesn’t help things, either. It could be that Sam Horn is indeed an amateur pugilist who doesn’t see what he did as wrong, or it could be that TMS/TMU is trying an end run around accreditation and Horn didn’t take that very well. Or it could be other things going on. Long and short of it, though, is that one year between unanimous consent and a resignation (with no evidence of disciplinary proceedings) , along with serious scrutiny of the founder’s financial dealings, hardly lends itself to confidence in the institution.

[Mark_Smith]

or attacking them either. I do not know Sam I Am, nor do I toot his Horn. (sad Sr. Suese there) Seriously though, I do not know Sam Horn nor do I know John MacArthur, Abner Chou, nor anyone else on the TMU board. I am sure they are all good men.

I do not think MacArthur is above reproach.

I have no problem investigating this situation.

I do not think “Satan” in the form of the WASC attacked TMU.

I just know that no one here knows what happened. I ask for patience.

That is entirely reasonable. Hopefully, a man has not been defamed. But if he has been, it needs to be exposed.

What has happened to Dr. Horn? There has been talk in certain corners of the Internet that he has been invited back to BJU to resume an administrative position. Furthermore, I have heard that he is plotting a ministry in evangelism. My search for an answer has been fruitless. Have any of you heard anything more concrete as to Dr. Horn’s future ministry plans?

Just noticed that Sam has updated his LinkedIn profile. It now says he is Senior Pastor at Palmetto Baptist Church. So, he is back in the Greenville area.

This could mean that he might end up working with the BJU Seminary in some capacity again, if only as an adjunct professor. Steve Pettit and Alan Benson are really working to bulk up the seminary for the new “500x5x5” initiative. Dr. Horn is already great friends with the former individual, so having him nearby might come in handy.

Regardless, I am glad that Dr. Horn has found a new avenue of ministry once again. What happened at the Master’s University to him reeked of the worst tendencies of mid-twentieth-century Fundamentalism.

[W. T. O’Harver] What happened at the Master’s University to him reeked of the worst tendencies of mid-twentieth-century Fundamentalism.

Yes it did!