By TylerR Dec 08 2018 Maranatha Baptist Bible CollegeMaranatha Baptist UniversityCederholmMaranatha: "With the Cedarholm generation nearly gone, it is time their story is told." Find more info and order the book here or here. 655 reads There are 11 Comments So far Rob Fall - Fri, 01/04/2019 - 11:36pm Got it late this afternoon. I'm up to the early fifties so far. It gives a nice overview of the issues and causes of the break between the NBC and the CBA. of the early structure of the CBA and the philosophy behind it. The book also documents Dr. and Mrs. Cedarholm's academic bona fides. He taught Greek at Eastern. Hoping to shed more light than heat.. Nice TylerR - Sat, 01/05/2019 - 11:41am I know some people who have very hard feeling about Cederholm. I'm not terribly interested in the minutiae of fundamentalist Baptist politics in the mid-1960s; it's far too depressing and demoralizing. This was the era of "big men," and big men like to fight with each other. All in all, I don't find those discussions very edifying. I enjoyed Bauder's first book on Northern Baptist fundamentalism (when will the next come out!?) because the focus was on theological revisionism; the "original fundamentalism." I don't look upon the Baptist fundamentalist fratricide of the post-war period as an era worth memorializing. Tyler Robbins is a pastor at Sleater-Kinney Road Baptist, in Olympia, WA, and an Investigations Manager with the State of Washington. He blogs as the Eccentric Fundamentalist. If that is you take on the period Rob Fall - Fri, 01/11/2019 - 6:31pm then I highly recommend this book. I think if any one man was the proximate cause of the CBA debacle it was Vernon Grounds. Read the book to find out. Remember, I'm a native San Franciscan. The only time I spent in Wisconsin is the four years I was at MBBC. And since Dr. Cedarholm's brother married my first pastor Arno Q. Wenigar, Sr.'s sister, this is hardly a hotbed of anti-Cedarholm sentiment. Hoping to shed more light than heat.. Heh TylerR - Fri, 01/11/2019 - 6:52pm The guy I talked to, an older fundamentalist associated with the GARBC (national), said it was all Cederholm's fault! I plan on buying the book because it was written by Dr. Oats, who I admire. It also chronicles an important of Baptist fundamentalist history. the infighting just depresses me, sometimes. I had a similar reaction to portions of Bauder's book, too. Tyler Robbins is a pastor at Sleater-Kinney Road Baptist, in Olympia, WA, and an Investigations Manager with the State of Washington. He blogs as the Eccentric Fundamentalist. What was his beef Rob Fall - Fri, 01/11/2019 - 7:46pm with Dr. Cedarholm? From the book, Dr. C had minimal contact but friendly contact with the GARBC. Hoping to shed more light than heat.. My Fading Memory Ron Bean - Fri, 01/11/2019 - 9:04pm The GARBC left the NBC in 1932 (?). The other group stayed in, eventually forming the CBA which was not as militant as Cedarholm and others thought they should be, leading them to leave the CBA and the rift with Grounds. I recall some GARBC men explaining to me, "we left and they stayed in until they were thrown out" and faulting the CBA's allowing churches to be members of both the CBA and the NBC. These separate types of beginnings caused a certain tense feeling between brethren during the 60's and 70's. My recollections are open to correction by Baptist historians while I blame it on my inability to get any good ginkgo biloba. "Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan Yeup Rob Fall - Sat, 01/12/2019 - 12:30am that's kinda sorta what happened. Part of the reason for the CBA allowing dual membership was the way the NBC structured its ministerial pension system. If a pastor and church fully split from the NBC its ministers lost their pension and whatever they had contributed. Churches also found that if they left the Convention after taking funds from the NBHMS, the convention had a lien on the property. A congregation either had to repay the funds or walk away from the property. The Convention was also not above stacking a congregation's business meeting. The defeat of the conservative resurgence in the NBC is a reason many Northern IFBs are pessimistic in regards to the SBC. Hoping to shed more light than heat.. Not sure TylerR - Sat, 01/12/2019 - 9:56am Don't know what the beef is, and don't really care. This is the kind of unedifying fratricide I don't like reading about. I've had enough of that in my own pastoral ministry! I'll read the book because it gives a good snapshot of an era, from my orbit, and gives background about how MBU was founded. Tyler Robbins is a pastor at Sleater-Kinney Road Baptist, in Olympia, WA, and an Investigations Manager with the State of Washington. He blogs as the Eccentric Fundamentalist. If you read the book Rob Fall - Sat, 01/12/2019 - 10:27am you'll find there were reasonable causes behind each of the splits. However, problems arose when men sought to re-fight the last war at a later date. And if you don't really care what the beef is why bring it up? Hoping to shed more light than heat.. I'm With Tyler Ron Bean - Sat, 01/12/2019 - 11:21am I recall a sermon at BJU by Stewart Custer titled "Fractured Fundamentalism" in the mid 1970's. While the KJV division was in its infancy, there was an uncomfortable (to me) distance between fundamentalists. GARBC, FBF, BJU, GARBC schools, PCC, BBF, Free Presbyterians, Ohio Bible Fellowship, IFCA, the Midwest Independent Baptists, Carl McIntire, etc. were generally acquainted but not close friends or considered family. "Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan Rob TylerR - Sat, 01/12/2019 - 11:27am Have no fear; I will read the book. Tyler Robbins is a pastor at Sleater-Kinney Road Baptist, in Olympia, WA, and an Investigations Manager with the State of Washington. He blogs as the Eccentric Fundamentalist.