Why Pastors Should Consider Preaching (At Least) 5 Minutes Shorter

What if you already only preach for 10 minutes? (-:

The kernel of truth is that preachers need the discipline of structuring their messages well, so they don’t wander and circle and coast. Assuming the meat is there to begin with, people who love the word will stay with you just fine if they can see how your message is structured, clearly see the main idea, know where you’re headed and know where you are on your journey together.

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

I agree with Aaron. I have heard messages longer than 1 hour, where I wondered where the time went, and messages of 20 minutes that were interminable. I’m sure others have experienced the same.

Dave Barnhart

The facts are that very few of us can preach long sermons that are of high quality and that all of us could benefit from more discipline in our preparation and presentation. That being said, my current pastor preaches for nearly an hour from a manuscript (although you could never tell) and every minute is rich. Personally I preach from a near-manuscript and stay in the 35 minute range.

BTW, did you ever consider how many of the memorable speeches of history were delivered from manuscripts? Even MLK’s “I Have a Dream” was memorized and delivered more than once.

"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan

It strikes me that a common chord in almost all of the “interminable” sermons I’ve heard is that the pastor delivering them uses the text not as his text, but rather as a springboard to talk about what he really wanted to talk about at length. The worst thing about it is that it subtly trains the congregation to do the same, and hence it is a subtle but powerful reinforcement not of Scripture, but rather of the prevailing culture of the church.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

No matter what I cut, I always fear that I cut what should’ve stayed and left what should’ve been cut. I love preaching except when I’m doing it, then I’m terrified.

This is about the 5th such post/article I’ve seen on the topic of shortening sermons in the last week somewhere on the Internets. Excuse me while I take a few seconds and reflect on all the posts I’ve ever seen on the need to shorten the music/worship time or announcements. (It won’t take long.)

{Exit Sarcasm mode}

[John E.]

No matter what I cut, I always fear that I cut what should’ve stayed and left what should’ve been cut. I love preaching except when I’m doing it, then I’m terrified.

That’s very interesting. I’m almost the opposite. I love preaching except when I am not doing it. The prep is often enjoyable also, but tinged with anxiety… Or used to be. After 6 or 8 yrs, that dropped off dramatically. But some passages still prove to be a bit frustrating to get something “sermon shaped” out of… Seem determined to be two sermons or 4 1/2 etc. , strung loosely together. Those can be awkward to deliver! (and to hear)

@DLCreed… (-:

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

Maybe. You have to decide if you’re just padding and being redundant, or if you really have some interesting things to say from the text. Lately, my sermons have been about 50 minutes. That bothers me, because I like to shoot for 40.

I agonize about cutting things, because everything I say is related to a text. It’s not like I go off on rabbit-trails or waste time telling stories. I get positive reactions from the congregation, but I’m certain folks wish I’d keep it at 40. I’m trying to do that. The reason why I’m going longer is that I”m trying to go through the Gospel of Mark in larger chunks, which means I’m trying to cover more space, which means I have more to talk about. I’m going to have to ditch that approach and take shorter passages for preaching. It’s the age-old problem; the balance between wanting to take the passage in context (which may mean using a longer section) vs. the need to avoid atomizing the text to death and taking 10 years to go through a book!

I did John 1:1-18 and the implications for the Trinity yesterday, and got it done in about 45 minutes. I was happy with that. I am determined to get Mark 5:35 - 6:6 done in 40 minutes this Sunday. It WILL happen. I’ll just talk faster!

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.

Isn’t the length of the sermon something of an acquired taste? If I were the new pastor at a church that was accustomed to 30 minute sermons, I believe I would aim for that length at first. Then, when people are used to my style, and hopefully, responding with encouragement for more, I would gradually increase. Even at that, I would probably aim for 45 minutes as the ideal. Spurgeon used that figure as the ideal in his day, and I doubt that most Christians are prepared to benefit from more today. Yes, I have had people tell me that they wished I had continued rather than close it when I did. (God bless you!) But I would rather quit with people desiring more than have people wishing for less. I know Mac Arthur often preaches an hour or more. God bless him! I also know I’m no Mac Arthur, and I believe wisdom dictates that I do less. (And in all honesty, I have often found Mac Arthur’s introductions unnecessarily long and a bit tedious, but after that, he’s usually riveting.)

G. N. Barkman

I personally don’t like MacArthur’s preaching. It’s like listening to a running commentary. I know it’s well-nigh heretical to say this, but I said it anyway.

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.

I was talking with another retired pastor this weekend and we asked ourselves if people really listened and retained what we were preaching. I suppose we could give them an exam at the end (it’s been done) but I wouldn’t advise it. I recall preaching on the account of Elisha, the widow, and the oil and grain. In the congregation was a pastor whom I knew well and whose church owed hundreds of thousands of dollars to people who had purchased bonds to build his ministry and who had been sending miniscule payments per court order to them for years. His ministry had just come into more than enough money to pay off all the debt but he refused and hid the money in his general fund. I knew this as fact and was feeling feisty so I looked him in the eye as I emphasized that the first thing the widow did was pay her debts and supported my point with Psalm 37:21. The guy, who was also my boss, didn’t even blink and thanked me for the “great sermon” afterward. The lesson learned was that we may have much to say but we need to realize that our audience probably is not going to hear and retain our vast amount of content no matter how meaningful it is.

"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan

Perhaps the length, and complexity, of teaching ought to take into account the audience’s ability to comprehend—like the old “Far Side” where the kid raises his hand and says “Excuse me, Mr. Osborne? May I be excused—my brain is full!”. That would also be a powerful warning against rabbit trails—you have only so much time and so much comprehension on your audience’s part, so you might as well use that for what matters.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Time length doesn’t matter.

what matters is coherence and cohesion. Basic writing skills. Have a proposition (or thesis), make every point support it, don’t be cute, quit when you are done.

that last is what I tell visiting preachers when they ask about time limits, quit when you are done

if you are just talking and telling stories with no apparent point, everyone will wish you would quit five minutes ago

the real benefit of sermons is the building of a biblical worldview. I can probably count on one hand specific sermons I remember over the last 40 years

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

When preaching through narrative books like Mark, Acts, 1 Kings, etc. I found that I needed to learn to summarize better. Keeping the study moving at a good pace precluded looking at every verse, so I often selected the parts that we would focus on and summarized what was in between.

But I strongly prefer an eyes-on summary — so it would be like “Note that beginning in v. 12 down through 26, this happens and that happens; we’ll pick it up at v. 27.”

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.