Christians, the World, and Worldliness

Bo Rajesh, it does nothing of the sort. If one really wants to handle these things then one would need to take this significantly farther to include much of the music played at BJU, or for that made on instruments produced by human cultures or recorded on media created by same cultures. That is, applying this passage to the issues you assign would still be ultimately arbitrary in its termination point. Something else would be required to justify the termination, which means this doesn't resolve the question, since that would be the necessary termination point. Interwsting half hour, but not much practical content.

If you mean it is a component that is accepted by any approach to Christian ethics, yes this is true. If you mean it provides insights into finding answers to any practical ethical question, particularly to something like music, absolutely not for the reasons noted. As I stated, the moment one makes an application from this approach it is an all or nothing matter if we see this as you do all music of any kind must go (if we assume a deontological ethic, which most in the IFB do), because the same underlying issues are universal to music of all styles, not just those that the modern pharisee finda objectionable, so the logic doesn't work.

Before you balk at the word pharisee, as someone who was.one of the worst of the lot, it is far better to recognize that the charge is true, and repent of it, than to double down on the error. The problem ultimately is you and they have the same approach to ethics, deontology.

I blocked you on Facebook for good reason. It is time to quit climbing back into the pit from which God rescued me. Thank you for reminding me of the fact that the IFB and BJU are more of a hindrance to the Christian life rather than an asset. Associating with this board again was likely a mistake, I'm out.

Mods, please kindly delete my account.

No this is not intended as an attack, if you think it is you don't know me as well as you think you do. I am noting some strong medicine I had fo take years ago, and having known you for a long time, I hope you will take it as well. I am in an SBC church, and at SWBTS and it is a much happier and healthier environment.

I will admit I threw up and was fairly sick soon after my last reply, my wife said I wasn't very coherent this morning, and I know I deleted some argumentation because the discussion isn't worth my time, (and I had fever dreams about spending a lot of time explaining paradigms in theology, meta-ethics, virtue theory and a few other issues to IFBers all while trying to finish research on my current chapter, hence my original note of phariseeism, because the deontological ethic preferred by most Fundamentalists leaves you no place else to go but phariseeism, but Grudem has the sale ultimate problem as do many I have met from Westminster, they just aren't as far along or as deep in the hole yet) but nothing is intended as an attack. Given my OCD like tendencies to re-edit things as if it were a paper (particularly since I am an android) this was vain janglings about the law best avoided. But I believed a personal admonishment from someone who has been there might help you, if you will listen. The more ai interact with you Rajesh, the more you remain the same old rajesh I knew 20 plus years ago. I was in my youth one of the worst of the lot, if you will remember. It was tough medicine to take, but needed.

That said, it did remind me of how good God was to lead me out of the IFB, and for that I really do thank you, because it makes me thank Him. I had started to reconnect with a few people following Pettit's reforms, his ouster leads me to believe that was a mistake. That is why I want out, severing my ties with the IFB and BJU (or separating if you prefer, though my approach to associations is case by case rather than partisanship, there are a few IFBers, mainly Mark Ward who I still respect, but not many). Severing ties is the best ethical choice I can make in regards to my family and I. The conversations on this board aren't helpful or healthy IMO.

As to some punishment, what are they going to do, ban me? I would likely consider it a badge of honor. Slander me? IFBers did so much of that that for so long while I was at BJU, I really don't care anymore. Unlike in my later BJU days, I have real friends who actually care these days, so I really am not all that concerned about those I knew in the past. Send me nasty emails, nothing a rule to dump it in the trash won't fix (a good thought, I'll set it up next time I start my computer). I really don't care enough for any of it to matter, provided it doesn't become something I would report to the police. Let's not be childish here, if it satisfies that human sadistic streak Nietsche wrote about in The Genealogy of Morals, go right ahead, though I will let the air out of your tires if you think any such pathetic gesture would be meaningful.