"It depresses brain function"
Jeffrey,
I understand what you are saying and I understand the context of Jewish weddings. I, like you, find it hard to defend exegetically and historically that there are two kinds of wine and that Jesus turned water into grape juice (although keep in mind wine ferments over time).
But if someone today were to say, “Most of the guests at modern weddings are drunk” you would quibble with that statement, wouldn’t you? Yes, if alcoholic beverages are present at a wedding it is fair to say that in most cases there are at least some, if not most, people in attendance who are drunk. But I’m sure there are many other weddings at which alcohol is consumed in moderation by some (many? most?) people present.
The point is, we just don’t know for sure what was going on at that wedding.
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Greg Long, Ed.D. (SBTS)
Pastor of Adult Ministries
Grace Church, Des Moines, IA
Adjunct Instructor
School of Divinity
Liberty University
Imagine if John would have had a Refractometer and Hydrometer. It would have been settled!
Greg, I totally agree that we do not know in detail, but we do know that Jesus saved the day by making a couple of kegs+ worth of exceptionally crafted wine. And I think a good time was had by all. (And I have been to more than a few weddings where most everyone was drunk, but they were mostly Catholic weddings.)
[Jeffrey Dean]Greg, I totally agree that we do not know in detail, but we do know that Jesus saved the day by making a couple of kegs+ worth of exceptionally crafted wine. And I think a good time was had by all. (And I have been to more than a few weddings where most everyone was drunk, but they were mostly Catholic weddings.)
the Jewish sacrificial system showed definitive proportions in the wine offering poured out at the base of the alter, so the worshipper too was to drink their wine in moderation.
the O.T. society certainly toiled very hard and usually had two vocations (for the male). they were also to observe the Sabbath once a week and cease from their toil. also the 3 festivals every male was mandated to appear before the Lord involved shouting and celebrating, all in a joyous, responsible way.
"Our faith itself... is not our saviour. We have but one Saviour; and that one Saviour is Jesus Christ our Lord. B.B. Warfield
i could be wrong, but i feel like this subject has been debated before on this site. We all ended up in agreement right??
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David,
I tried to find the book so I could give it to others. Do you know where it is available ?
Dick Dayton
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