The Crazy Worship Lady
… no worship going on there anyway.
“Is my primary interest sounding good and looking normal? This lady had gathered together with a heart prepared to give right allegiance to her living God. She was ruined by a massive God.” Very wishful thinking.
My question for him: if this is how we’re supposed to worship, why not do it at home? That is, if we look and sound to those around us is irrelevant, why should there even be “those around us”?
“Crazy worship lady” should stay home, put some wild music on and do her thing in privacy.
“Is my primary interest sounding good and looking normal? This lady had gathered together with a heart prepared to give right allegiance to her living God. She was ruined by a massive God.” Very wishful thinking.
My question for him: if this is how we’re supposed to worship, why not do it at home? That is, if we look and sound to those around us is irrelevant, why should there even be “those around us”?
“Crazy worship lady” should stay home, put some wild music on and do her thing in privacy.
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Perhaps she does at home. I know, in our service, there are a few people that would probably be very similar to this lady, and they act very similar when not in a ‘worship’ service.
Plus, I am not sure worship has to be the same in private as it is in public. I doubt David danced for the Lord (whatever that was) every time he wanted to worship God. I even doubt our private worship times are the same as our public.
Plus, I am not sure worship has to be the same in private as it is in public. I doubt David danced for the Lord (whatever that was) every time he wanted to worship God. I even doubt our private worship times are the same as our public.
I don’t remember ever singing the 3rd stanza. We always sang 1, 2 and 4. If you are reading this and about to write a hymn don’t spend too much time on the 3rd stanza, everyone will skip it for some unknown reason.:bigsmile:
I suppose the author would be enthusiastic about a return of the barking revivals - if exuberance is all that matters.
Why is it that my voice always seems to be loudest when I am saying the dumbest things?
Sounds like a pagan rain dance to me.
They worship a different god than my God.
Also, “Let the women keep silent”
They worship a different god than my God.
Also, “Let the women keep silent”
When the church is gathered together for worship, isn’t the worship to be a community thing? What this woman was doing might have been sincere, but while she was worshipping God, everyone else’s attention was being drawn away from God to gawking at her. Is it appropriate for an individual act of worship to hinder the worship of the entire congregation? I don’t think so.
“For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.”
Like the Jews in this passage, she is zealously and sincerely wrong.
Like the Jews in this passage, she is zealously and sincerely wrong.
Hopefully, everyone will admit that the assumption is that she is sincere and passionate but misguided. It is equally possible that there is nothing praiseworthy here, just a self-centered woman drawing attention to herself and seeking personal satisfaction. Just because it happened in a worship setting, it does not automatically follow that the motives and intentions were good.
Why is it that my voice always seems to be loudest when I am saying the dumbest things?
Reminds me of “Sunshine,” a character that we used to look to for the sheer entertainment value he provided in a local G’ville church. Sad to say, but as a freshman in college, I didn’t have the sense to know he was really putting on a show & that he thoroughly enjoyed all the attention. Of all the things going on in those services, worship wasn’t one of them! It’s disappointing to read this Blogger’s naivete.
The article author states:
There are several passages of scripture that we almost never apply to worship but in my opinion probably should be because they deal with public religious posture and conduct. One such passage is Matthew 6:1-18. Here we are encouraged to make our giving, praying, and fasting, primarily private actions seen only by God. In applying this to public worship we need to understand that our gathering together is to jointly worship God and make Him the object of our attention. It is our duty to make ourselves as inconspicuous as possible. I have come to believe that a proper application of this to music would place an emphasis on congregational singing without any worship teams, musicians or choirs up front. Choirs and musicians to the rear please. There was a time when some church choir lofts were at the rear. The building of the First Baptist Church of Providence Rhode Island is an example. We have allowed the entertainment model to drive much of todays worship.
This also would apply to the recent popular practice of hands and arms in the air. There is no real NT basis for such overt action. If we wish an NT worship physical posture let us fall on our knees before the living Christ. 1 Timothy 2:8 is addressed to men and appears to be a figurative statement. The statements in 1 Timothy regarding modesty certainly apply to our coming together in public as well as our everyday appearance. We have had the opportunity to visit many churches in the last ten years. I have observed many women very provocatively dressed seeking to worship with raised hands. There is the disobedience of the obvious for the mistaken posture of the obscure. This kind of worldly ignorance may also be seen in what many call worship music today.
As for the article’s author, seven years at Dallas Seminary and still can’t think Biblically. WOW!
I’ve been reading through the newest edition of Christianity Today. I came across an interview with T. David Gordon regarding his book Why Johnny Can’t Sing Hymns. Dr. Gordon makes the statement contemporary worship music should only be permissible if it will prevent a church from splitting. He then goes on to say the reason churches are not hymn-only is due to a lack of musical education. If a church wants to rediscover deep worship they need to re-educate their people away from pop-culture music to a deeper ability in joining the musical excellence found in hymns.I read the article in Christianity Today and was impressed by the book authors answers to their interview questions. This book appears to be worth reading.
There are several passages of scripture that we almost never apply to worship but in my opinion probably should be because they deal with public religious posture and conduct. One such passage is Matthew 6:1-18. Here we are encouraged to make our giving, praying, and fasting, primarily private actions seen only by God. In applying this to public worship we need to understand that our gathering together is to jointly worship God and make Him the object of our attention. It is our duty to make ourselves as inconspicuous as possible. I have come to believe that a proper application of this to music would place an emphasis on congregational singing without any worship teams, musicians or choirs up front. Choirs and musicians to the rear please. There was a time when some church choir lofts were at the rear. The building of the First Baptist Church of Providence Rhode Island is an example. We have allowed the entertainment model to drive much of todays worship.
This also would apply to the recent popular practice of hands and arms in the air. There is no real NT basis for such overt action. If we wish an NT worship physical posture let us fall on our knees before the living Christ. 1 Timothy 2:8 is addressed to men and appears to be a figurative statement. The statements in 1 Timothy regarding modesty certainly apply to our coming together in public as well as our everyday appearance. We have had the opportunity to visit many churches in the last ten years. I have observed many women very provocatively dressed seeking to worship with raised hands. There is the disobedience of the obvious for the mistaken posture of the obscure. This kind of worldly ignorance may also be seen in what many call worship music today.
As for the article’s author, seven years at Dallas Seminary and still can’t think Biblically. WOW!
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