By Aaron Blumer Nov 14 2018 Roman CatholicismPopeSexual Ethics"Top U.S. bishops have admitted their disappointment and frustration as the Vatican has blocked immediate action on the child sex abuse scandal." - Christian Post 2025 reads There are 5 Comments Will get interesting Bert Perry - Wed, 11/14/2018 - 10:52am Here, the Pope is making a command. Elsewhere, Vatican attorneys have pushed back against lawsuits blaming them for child sex abuse by saying the bishops control things. The Vatican is in effect talking out of both sides of its mouth, and I would not be surprised if plaintiffs' attorneys make them pay for that one. Aspiring to be a stick in the mud. An Infinite Supply Ron Bean - Wed, 11/14/2018 - 4:43pm There's seems to be an infinite supply of shock, disappointment, anger, sorrow, being appalled, disgust, and condemnation for those wanting to react to messes like this one. There's an inexhaustible demonstration of strong feelings but no action. "Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan Tell that to the plaintiffs' lawyers Bert Perry - Thu, 11/15/2018 - 10:16am Ron Bean wrote: There's seems to be an infinite supply of shock, disappointment, anger, sorrow, being appalled, disgust, and condemnation for those wanting to react to messes like this one. There's an inexhaustible demonstration of strong feelings but no action. Oh, there is, and will be, plenty of action taken. The question is simply whether the bishops will be making the decisions, or whether the decisions will be made for them by the courts, plaintiffs' lawyers, state attorneys general, and victims of pedophile and pederast priests. Plus, I'm guessing thousands to millions of Catholics are already showing their displeasure by showing up as empty pews--hopefully many of them "uncrossing the Tiber", so to speak, to go to Geneva, Westminster, Augsburg, and the like. And it is also true that many will "uncross the Tiber" to nowhere, and God will hold the bishops and their Pontiff accountable for that, too. Change is coming, we just need to pray and be accountable ourselves. Aspiring to be a stick in the mud. Pa Senate Republicans Are Protecting TheCatholic Church Joeb - Thu, 11/15/2018 - 10:27pm It stinks they don’t want to deal with the Elephant in the room. In Pa the Catholic Church is being protected by the Republicans. It’s a shame because this also protects ABWE. No one wants to truly deal with this problem and I think the Catholic Church just hope it goes away. I believe there is change in the air. The SBC canned their older guard for the same reasons and is dissolving their relationship with the Republicans. Even the conservative talk show hosts in Philadelphia want the Catholic Church punished financially. At this point Financially is the only way to make them change their behavior and deal with the Elephant in the room. ABWE should send checks to the Harrisburg Catholic Dioceses since now their getting a free ride. If that law passes re the the law suits and retroactively dropping the statute of limitations the PA Catholic Church and ABWE ARE DONE. Statutes of limitations Bert Perry - Fri, 11/16/2018 - 10:22am Joe is correct about the case in Pennsylvania; it is largely the "right" that is working against an extension of the statute of limitations, and yes, since the cover-up for Donn Ketcham was orchestrated in the state, ABWE might well be sued for the home office's role. Sexual abuse does often result in loss of faith (that millstone reference), and you can't cite 1 Cor. 6 as a defense against a lawsuit by an unbeliever. But that noted, even if PA never does extend these statutes of limitations, it doesn't shield any entity that doesn't clearly get religion on protecting victims of sexual abuse, especially when they're kids. Since the Pope is clearly running interference at this time, that accelerates the exit from the pews, and it steels the resolve of those whose statute of limitations limit hasn't expired to take action. And that's if they're lucky. If they're not, those denied justice at the ballot box, soap box, and jury box may, per Frederick Douglass' dictum, access the next box of freedom;the cartridge box. Rome is playing with some dangerous business here. Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.