BREAKING: Mass shooting at Texas church

Aaron, the first link is exactly what I was referring to. Now it might have been acceptable to see that kind of logic prior to 1990, when we didn’t know the record of carry permit holders, but we have three decades of results here. The author owes it to us to provide some actual evidence, and there’s a reason he doesn’t; it’s because it doesn’t back up his scare-mongering. The police have a higher rate of hitting the wrong person than do relatively “untrained” permit holders.

And what’s the bias of “Campus Safety”. Hmm….we could look at who they work with for grants, no?

Regarding the other issue, yes, Wilcox is dead, as are two officers, but what would the toll have been otherwise? Seems he kept the perps occupied in some of the minutes it took for the police to arrive, no?

So we need to have realistic expectations in this area and not be over confident. It’s like swimming. You can read all about it, but you don’t know how to swim until you swim. And you can swim quite a lot and not be ready at all for the English Channel.

There are usually ex-military men in every church that I’ve ever been in, and I know that they have been professionally trained on caring for and using their weapons. It doesn’t mean that they’ll be able to put steel on target if someone walked in with a shotgun and started spraying the place. Even cops, who are also trained to shoot to kill, average something like eight shots to put down an assailant due to nerves and adrenalin and other factors.

Shooting is easy. Shooting back when you’re being fired on - or when other lives are in danger - is completely different. I’d be concerned at what ‘collateral damage’ if my guard nailed a bystander in the chest because they got too excited pulling the trigger.