By filingspost Nov 26 2013 WomenIt’s Time for a Schism Regarding Women in the Church 2463 reads There are 11 Comments Me Rob Fall - Tue, 11/26/2013 - 7:50pm I'd be happy to separate from this article's author. If I looked harder, there's probably other issues of greater import for my actions. But, he doesn't have any impact or influence on me or my ministry. So, he's as relevant to me as Swaziland politics. Hoping to shed more light than heat.. why? paynen - Tue, 11/26/2013 - 7:58pm why? Separation TylerR - Tue, 11/26/2013 - 7:58pm This author is in serious error. I agree, we should indeed separate. See you in eternity, Brother . . . Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist? Separation has made a "come back" Joel Tetreau - Wed, 11/27/2013 - 12:38am We used to say.......only fundamentalists practice separation...... Then we had some conservative evangelicals practicing separation..... Now liberal & feminist "evangelicalism" has decided to practice separation..... Where's the love baby!? Straight Ahead! jt Dr. Joel Tetreau serves as Senior Pastor, Southeast Valley Bible Church (sevbc.org); Regional Coordinator for IBL West (iblministry.com), Board Member & friend for several different ministries; Ouch. Dave Gilbert - Wed, 11/27/2013 - 5:56am I guess 1 Timothy 2:12 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-37 are not Scripture and to be heeded in this man's mind. Dave Gilbert wrote: I guess 1 Sean Fericks - Wed, 11/27/2013 - 4:45pm Dave Gilbert wrote: I guess 1 Timothy 2:12 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-37 are not Scripture and to be heeded in this man's mind. I suppose we should separate from misogynist scriptures? More than just practicing separation....... Joel Shaffer - Wed, 11/27/2013 - 5:02pm We used to say.......only fundamentalists practice separation...... Then we had some conservative evangelicals practicing separation..... Now liberal & feminist "evangelicalism" has decided to practice separation..... Where's the love baby!? Straight Ahead! jt Tony Jones, the author of this blog article, comes across in his blog interactions quite angry, especially since the emergent movement (which he helped start) has fizzled in the past few years. He is quite militant towards those who don't agree with his progressive Christianity, especially with his two hobby horses, Gay-Marriage and Women in Church leadership........ Not at all Sean. Dave Gilbert - Wed, 11/27/2013 - 6:00pm If it's in the Bible, then it is God's word and should be non-negotiable, no matter what some liberal-minded individual may say about it. ( Ummm, were you serious or just poking at me? ) I read the article and couldn't believe my eyes, then took a good hard look at the website itself...It's a website for religion, and not Bible-believing Christians. This guy doesn't resemble any serious believer I've ever met. He's more like a religious revolutionary who's trying to tear down everything that offends him about biblical Christianity ( i.e. the faith once given ). What's more, it's easy to see his reasoning on just the subject of the article...he obviously believes that if women aren't accorded the same rights as men in the churches as in godless society, then they are somehow viewed as unequal. I think his equation would look something like this: Society-at-large = the Church. Maybe someday, but thankfully not today. *Sigh* One-world church, here we come... One of the things he goes on about is this "subjugation of women" in the churches...what he fails to get a grasp on, is that God commands women to be silent regarding teaching and preaching, and He holds men responsible for those duties. It has nothing to do with denying ladies freedom in ministering or equality, but in requiring only men to exercise certain talents within the body of Christ. IMO, Mr. Jones also doesn't seem a likely candidate for believing much of anything else the Bible teaches, either. I already picked up on several things he'd believe contrary to Scripture just reading this small article, one of which is, I think he approves of "gay rights" ( I do as well, but I don't...difficult to explain short of a few paragraphs. Godless society can do what they like, but believers are characterized by their willingness to obey the Lord, not men. Active homosexuality is sin, and those walking in sexual sin are to be withdrawn from until they repent of it. ) in the churches, which says volumes about his willingness to obey Scripture. What's scary is, I know of some "churches" where he'd fit right in. EDIT: Ahhh, that explains it Joel. I wasn't sure who this gentleman was. thanks for clarifying things for me. Tony is absolutely right Stephen Enjaian - Wed, 11/27/2013 - 10:37pm Tony Jones once said, "So for me personally, talking about absolute truth is a nonsensical way to talk, and Christian theologians shouldn't talk that way." He begins with "for me personally" but ends by presuming to tell others what they shouldn't do. So how does he manage to write such absolutist drivel here without believing in absolute truth? How is one supposed to take him seriously? Jones is absolutely right about one thing. He should get the schism he wants. That way, it will be clear others will be less likely to mistake his brand of pick-and-choose Biblical interpretation for the real thing. Dave, yes, I was kidding. ;) Sean Fericks - Mon, 12/02/2013 - 8:43pm Dave, yes, I was kidding. Goodbye! Ed Vasicek - Tue, 12/03/2013 - 2:52pm It would be wonderful if those in error separated from the rest of us for a change! Good bye -- don't forget to write. Well, then again, DO forget to write. "The Midrash Detective"