Feds Investigate Hobby Lobby Boss for Illicit Artifacts

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Bert Perry's picture

OK, we have named sources on one side, unnamed on the other.  Now I don't particularly carry any water for Hobby Lobby or its owners, but I cannot get away from the idea that this investigation is politically motivated.  And it's worth noting that they don't name any evidence that it was actually "looted", but rather simply imported without proper forms.  

Again, I've got no big bias for the Greens--my personal view is that Christians ought to set a firm upper bound on personal wealth to avoid the Solomon syndrome, and they're probably on the wrong side of that line--but something smells here, big time.

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Jeff Howell's picture

ever win a court case that the government didn't want you to win?

 

Bert Perry's picture

.....with the hypothesis of Obama retaliation is that the motion started in 2011, and the contraceptive mandate Hobby Lobby objected to became "code" in January 2012.  However, it is possible that they got things in going in response to likely Hobby Lobby funding in the aftermath of the Citizens United decision, which was in 2010.

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Joeb's picture

i am no fan of hobby lobby either due to a highly questionable ministry they heavily supported.  That being said I would say it was a good bet Obama siced his junk yard dog on Hobby Lobby.   Hobby Lobby's alleged violations may be real, but in their zeal to buy artifacts for the museum they probably made some mistakes. To me this is not a criminal matter.  No ill intent.  It should a be civil matter so the government should just apply any fines and move on.  The artifacts in question may have to be given up as stolen property and Hobby Lobby would just have to take the loss and move on too. 

Bert Perry's picture

Joe, others, I simply have to question whether it is just to confiscate items brought into the country if it's really just a paperwork error.  OK, pay a fine for doing so, require an 8D for those involved in doing the paperwork, pay relevant import duties along with an enforcement fee, but on what grounds does the government confiscate items based on a simple paperwork error?  Shouldn't that be reserved for willful wrongs, real looting of antiquities, etc..?

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Joeb's picture

If the items say were dig illegally in say Syri Eygpt Jordon or Iraq then they are considered stolen property.  The items belong to the states that they are dug in illegally.  Just as if you bought you dug an item on Valley Forge site after finding it with a medal detector and digging it up without anyone knowing.  Or your at a historic civil war site and find something in a stream.  After finding it you clean it up and sell it on EBay.  Once on eBay it is considered stolen goods.  Same thing if item is purchased on Internet and ends up being questionable source then it is considered stolen property.  The purchaser has to give it up and just takes the loss even if he or she did not know it was stolen.  So once determined stolen the Police or Government can take possession of item until rightful owner is determined. PS Bert let me know how your trip to Tahitti goes.