Glen Campbell was a practicing Messianic Jew for over two decades
Alice Cooper talked about going to a “country-western” seder at Campbell’s home.
Hoping to shed more light than heat..
Encouraging to read. Thanks for posting link.
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I wonder if he was part of the Hebrew Roots movement? I know some nut jobs that left their Baptist church for such a group. They feel it is obligatory to keep Jewish feasts and any commandment in OT that was “a perpetual statute,” or an “ordinance forever.” They also feel it is more spiritual to say divine names in Hebrew rather than in English. A crazy group of Judaizers.
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There are several streams out there, really, ranging from those who really can be called Judiazers, insisting that one must follow Torah to be saved, to those whose theology truly is orthodox, but they choose to remember the Jewish festivals. I’ve even become aware of a sort of “Messianic Jewish” church populated mostly by Gentiles that emphasizes the festivals and other customs of Jews, but when it came down to Biblical proscriptions against adultery and divorce, that didn’t seem so important.
Hopefully Campbell had the real thing.
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Bert, your experience may have been real, but it is unfair to typify a movement based upon it. People do that with Westboro Baptist all the time — and we say “unfair.”
Most Messianic Jews I have known observe the holidays freely, not under constraint. They do not teach that this is necessary for salvation, but, if you want to be a Messianic Jew, this goes with it. If it is not mandatory, and if God originally instituted it, then it cannot be sinful — only superfluous. Now if it is taught as mandatory or necessary for salation, that would be sinful.
Romans 14:5-6, “One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God.”
I have spoken many times at Ahavat Yeshua, a Messianic Congregation, yet I have never observed the Levitical Fesitvals.
Having said that, THER ARE Messianic Congregations that are in serious error. Some are truly Judaizers in the Galatian sense. But just as most Baptists are fairly solid (despite liberal American or National Baptists, or extremists like Westboro), so most Messianics are pretty good.
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…that’s what I was saying, Ed. To quote myself,
There are several streams out there, really, ranging from those who really can be called Judiazers, insisting that one must follow Torah to be saved, to those whose theology truly is orthodox, but they choose to remember the Jewish festivals.
Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.
Sorry, I must have misunderstood you. I somehow thought the last part of your post — about practicing festivals but downplaying adultery — was something you associated with the movement as a whole. I read something into your words that you did not intend, obviously.
Please accept my apology.
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No worries, Ed. To make it very clear, the last sentence of my first comment is in reference to one church in my area, and quite frankly, I know really only one side of the story—a woman who was at my church went to this church and left her husband and kids behind in a case involving adultery and divorce.
Now it’s hard to really “spin” this, to be sure, but again, I really only know one side of the story.
Side note; I have observed, in a goyesh fashion, a Seder or two, and my family enjoys reading the Purim story most years over a goodly supply of Hamantaschen. (but we do not observe the Mitzvah of drinking wine until we can no longer discern the names “Haman” and “Mordecai”, of course…that’s one of those things where we simply do not see how the Oral Torah works with the written word of God, to put it mildly)
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