By Aaron Blumer Jul 12 2016 PCUSAEcclesiastical Separation "For months FPC Bethlehem has considered seeking dismissal from PC(USA) amid disagreement over the increasingly theologically liberal direction of the denomination." CPost 2077 reads There are 3 Comments The PCUSA has been losing churches for years: Larry Nelson - Tue, 07/12/2016 - 8:23am Scores of more theologically-conservative PC(USA) congregations have left the denomination and joined ECO [ http://eco-pres.org/ ] instead. ECO now has at least 285 affiliated churches, most of which have left the PC(USA). Here in Minnesota, these are two such churches: Hope Presbyterian (Richfield) [ http://hope-pc.org/ ], a church of about 1,000. Christ Presbyterian (Edina) [ http://www.cpconline.org/ ], a church of about 3,500. Expect more of this... Bert Perry - Tue, 07/12/2016 - 2:55pm ...I came out of one of the "liberal" churches, the United Methodists, and it's striking how great the gap is between the seminaries, the leadership, and the churches, especially in more conservative areas. To draw a picture, I've got some of the theology books my late mother had, and not one of them is from a UMC author or press--the theological lifeblood in the pews appears to be significantly evangelical in nature, things like Intervarsity and the like. In the same way, I get daily notes from my step-dad's wife (my "two-step" mom?), and those are also evangelical in nature--she's in a PCUSA church. The intellectual spirit that dominates their seminaries doesn't make it to the pews, or sometimes even the pulpit. I would guess the leaders are well aware of this, and that they know they cannot win the votes. Hence the only way to keep their "church taxes" and position is through legal nit-picking, and it would follow that things are very likely to get very ugly going forward. Aspiring to be a stick in the mud. James Montgomery Boice wrote Jonathan Charles - Tue, 07/12/2016 - 5:39pm James Montgomery Boice wrote in one of his commentaries about bringing Tenth Presbyterian out of the United Presbyterian Church into the PCA that the mainline denominations care more about the real estate than the people.