By Jim Jul 05 2018 ConcupiscenceThe Difference between Protestants and Catholics concerning “Concupiscence” 1713 reads There are 2 Comments An unfortunate definition Steve Newman - Sun, 07/08/2018 - 7:03am The author describes concupiscence as "involuntary desire for sin." Does anyone else see this as problematic? So much of, for example, addictions counseling, is based on the idea that the poor sinner cannot help themselves. Is sin, especially to the believer, "involuntary?" Or is it based on understanding epithumia as strong desire? Tough Stuff Ed Vasicek - Mon, 07/09/2018 - 12:57pm This is a difficult area. Epithumia (lust or strong desire) is often condemned. Yet, at the same time, it is not sin to be tempted. Might it be the difference between desire and nurtured desire. In other words, at a certain level a desire is not sin, but, if unchecked it becomes more intense and thus sinful. "The Midrash Detective"