At some local bars, religion is on tap
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I have met several people who have held Bible studies in bars. That just makes me scratch my head.
If you have forsaken “traditional church structures” (i.e. the local church) then you are in deliberate and willfull rebellion against God’s word.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
[TylerR]If you have forsaken “traditional church structures” (i.e. the local church) then you are in deliberate and willfull rebellion against God’s word.
From article:
Brandon Brown, pastor at Collective MKE church, said he started Jesus + Beer because “people have left traditional church structures but still want to talk about Jesus.”
I interpreted this as buildings
Perhaps you are right, Jim! However, this man doesn’t seem to like church much:
For Don Mingo of Big Bend, a “faith shift” attracted him away from church and toward Jesus + Beer. So did the promise of “really good beer.”
The author made this comment:
Church can be a scary place to voice dissent or ask questions, theologians suggest.
Ah, how stupid. Shame on any Pastor who will not foster an atmosphere where people can learn. Shame on any church member who abandons the local church to seek answers to questions from Pastor Google or the crew at the pub.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
Sad.
On the light side, where else could this have occurred but Wisconsin? (sorry, Aaron!) :^)
Seriously, it strikes me that Jesus performed His first miracle at a wedding, not in the synagogue. Along the same lines, it is worth noting that Paul seems to separate the “love feasts” from the ordinary church service—I think if someone had brought a bottle of wine, or his breakfast for that matter, into the church service, it would have generated much the same response as Paul had in 1 Corinthians 11, where he warned them about their behavior at the Lord’s Supper. That is, there seems to be a decision that people ought to concentrate on the Word of God during a service, not other distractions.
(obviously a LOT of considerations with that one)
That said, what these guys have right is that they are trying to minister in a place where men let their guard down—think “Cheers” bar, where Norm and Cliff and all freely discuss all the troubles of life. I’ve done so myself, finding that not only was the “smoke shack” the best place to listen to the machinists tell me everything they felt was wrong (I’m a quality engineer by trade), but they’d also open up about personal lives and faith. I’ve never smoked and never will, but that was good.
Kinda like that second chapter of John, really.
Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.
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