The Incoherence of Evolutionary Origins (Part 4)

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After the Impossible Hurdle

Evolution is the atheist’s way out. It is his escape clause from having to face the God who created him. People like Richard Dawkins may convince themselves that it makes atheism intellectually respectable, but they must first convince themselves that naturalism is intellectually respectable.

The problem here is that, as in many walks of life, it is possible to arrange our arguments selectively and with rhetorical conviction while ignoring the issues, even the most obvious ones. So if we begin to stack up the problems: – something does not come from nothing; life does not come from non-life; the mathematics of sequence space (not enough time); the contradiction of using target-oriented computer programs to “simulate” discrete non-targeted chance scenarios; the logical fallacies (question-begging, composition, reification), etc., these problems make the intellectual satisfaction appear rather hollow.

But after such matters as these are engaged, there are still more difficulties. One such is irreducible complexity. First posited by biochemist Michael Behe, and, despite rumours to the contrary, not close to being refuted, this observational theory says that function in highly complex systems requires that all the necessary parts are in position and ready to work for the system itself to be what it is. In Behe’s Darwin’s Black Box, he has looked at the incredibly complex engines in the cells and he has shown that the different features of the cell must all have been there at the same time, already manufactured, and ready to do their jobs. The blind non-teleological forces of evolution cannot explain either the design of these complex and minuscule machines, nor can it explain the simultaneity of these parts; each one functioning the way that it should function. Behe uses a by now well known illustration:

“Irreducible complexity” is just a fancy phrase I use to mean a single system that is composed of several interacting parts, where the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to cease functioning. For example, the mousetrap has to have a platform, a catch, a holding bar, a spring, and a hammer in order to function as a mousetrap. (Michael Behe in William Dembski & James Kushiner, eds., Signs of Intelligence, 93)

Evolutionists have claimed that since some individual features in these systems are found to do work in other systems, that means evolution could have picked up and selected them to include in a future system. But not only does this fail to address the “irreducible” part of Behe’s argument (as noted by him in an appendix to the 10th Anniversary edition of his book), it also lends evolution a prescience it actually does not have—again showing the proclivity of evolutionists for extrapolation and reification.

Doing what comes Naturalistically

As many a scientist will tell you, true science must—I say must—proceed along naturalistic lines. We must seek for natural explanations in the natural world for the phenomena we come across.

Now, on the face of it, the only thing which could be criticized in that sentiment is its doctrinaire flavor. The problem with it is that there are many phenomena which cannot be satisfactorily explained as arising naturally even though they are amenable to observation and experimentation. The method of science should not exclude a priori non-naturalistic explanations, because not invoking God as the Creator and Designer of nature moves the naturalist beyond experimentation and hypothesis testing into metaphysical dogmatism and its resulting blindness. Phillip Johnson well describes the metaphysical fog which methodological naturalism encourages:

Philosophical naturalism is so deeply ingrained in the thinking of many educated people today, including theologians, that they find it difficult even to imagine any other way of looking at things … Even if they do develop doubts about whether such modest forces can account for large-scale change, their naturalism is undisturbed. Since there is nothing outside of nature, and since something must have produced all the kinds of organisms that exist, a satisfactory naturalistic mechanism must be awaiting discovery. (Phillip E. Johnson, “Evolution as Dogma,” in Uncommon Dissent, William A. Dembski, editor, 30)

Under these conditions it is impossible to do what Kepler or Newton or Maxwell or Faraday did, and do good science while leaving a route open where the facts can lead to God (if Carl Sagan believed the facts could lead to aliens why could they not lead to God?). It is exactly this cognitive rut which one so often sees in the reviews of creationist and I.D. books by methodological naturalists of all stripes. The charges, “they don’t understand evolution,” or “this writer doesn’t know how stages of bone-growth [or whatever] follow evolutionary pathways,” etc., show up this often unnoticed slavery of thought. These people cannot conceive of a situation where evolution is wrong or where philosophical naturalism does not equate to doing science.

In his thought-provoking book Science’s Blind Spot, Cornelius Hunter demonstrates that it was aberrant theological assumptions, fueled by natural theology, that installed and sustained the illegitimate reign of naturalism over science in the first place. It was the dysteleology in the world; the imperfections and extinctions, which God had to be protected from. God, it was thought, would not have made the world less than perfect. Therefore, to invoke God would be to connect Him uncomfortably to the “wrongness” of nature. The deistic strain in such thinking should not be lost. Whatever, this was not good theology. As a result of the hardening of this resolve a questionable philosophical tenet has been turned into an established rule of science.

He observes:

Across the various fields of study, the common requirement is that explanations be naturalistic. And in this grand paradigm there is a grand blind spot. Problems are never interpreted as problems with the paradigm. No matter how implausible, when explanations do not fit the data very well, they are said to be research problems. They must be, for there is no option for considering that a problem might be better handled by another paradigm. (Cornelius G. Hunter, Science’s Blind Spot: The Unseen Religion of Scientific Naturalism, 46)

Yet scientific naturalism, Hunter goes on to say, “is not a discovery of science—it is a presupposition of science as currently practiced” (Hunter, 47).

And it is a presupposition which, though it now maintains the naturalistic paradigm, cannot in fact support the the scientific enterprise as a meaningful endeavor. In fact, it is the materialist outlook on life and mind that poses perhaps the biggest obstacle to any sound philosophy of science.

In contrast, the Biblical Worldview provides a basis for the uniformity of nature in God’s unchanging character and His covenant with Noah. But it also insists that the existence of the supernatural (God) is the precondition of the natural; that reason must precede unreason because the reverse scenario is impossible, and so non-demonstrable. It has never been experienced by anyone anywhere. This has to do with the laws of information which I shall discuss in the last post. So, something does not come from nothing (law of causality); matter is not eternal (first 2 laws of thermodynamics); life does not come from non-life (law of biogenesis); amino acids cannot thrive in a reduced (oxygen free) atmosphere (2nd law of thermodynamics), but neither can they thrive in a water-based environment (law of hydrolysis). Finally, (though more could be added) reason implies information which cannot come from mindless particles (laws of information). These are laws because they have never been countermanded in our experience.

Discussion

Another hit by team pyro:

​Challenge: “God”? What God? I’ve never seen any God. Real things weigh something. What does your Imaginary Friend in the Sky weigh? I’ll just stick with reason and science.
Response: Really? What color is “reason”? How much does “science” weigh? Was that supposed to be an argument? How many millimeters was that argument? What atomic number is it on the periodic table? Does it taste like chicken?

Why is it that my voice always seems to be loudest when I am saying the dumbest things?

I don’t disagree with the fact that our view of God, alters our view of what we see in science. That is fine. But I would be careful with the fact that good science would lead us to God. We need to be careful how far we go. Scripture clearly teaches us that what we see (which is different than science). General revelation is meant to reveal the nature of God and culpability of man. We also know that according to Romans 1:18, that natural man universally rejects this revelation. It isn’t that Galileo, Kepler and others saw God because of science, they knew God irrespective of science. It is also clear that Kepler others, despite having a knowledge of God, did not practice any better science than those who reject God.

Science is not pursued separately form general revelation but within it. Ergo, science done within its proper setting will lead to God. Romans 1 tells us why scientists do science and are not lead to God, although they are confronted by God.

Dr. Paul Henebury

I am Founder of Telos Ministries, and Senior Pastor at Agape Bible Church in N. Ca.

Paul,

I am not sure if I am fully aligned here. We need to be careful with how we link Science and General Revelation. Richard Mayhue states in “Coming to Grips with Genesis” that “Revelation does not include what man discovers on his own (i.e. knowledge) but rather what God discloses that otherwise men could not find on his own”. Furthermore Gerrit Berkouwer states in “General Revelation” that “it will not do simply to equate the knowledge of nature with the knowledge of God’s general revelation, for this revelation deals with the knowledge of God himself. In our opinion, therefore, it is wrong to say, as is sometimes done, that the natural sciences ‘investigate’ God’s general revelation”. The continuing advancement of science doesn’t provide us any better insight into General Revelation. The General Revelation as seen by Cain and Abel (before any science had advanced), was wholy sufficient to satisfy General Revelation, and any future scientific endeavors do not enhance General Revelation.

Maybe we are saying the same thing, and I just missed it in your point.

dgszweda (sorry, I don’t know your first name),

The Mayhue quote is a bit surprising. What it does is create a cleavage between the external world and man’s inner self. We function as image-bearers discovering things (informally and formally) in God’s world which inform us in some way about the creation. Saying that we can acquire knowledge about the world which is non-revelatory of God leads naturally to the teaching that we should think independently of God (i.e. some knowledge is arrived at by NOT thinking God’s thoughts after Him). But since all that is within the world is pre-known and pre-interpreted by God this position looks untenable. Van Til said,

“The knowledge of God is inherent in man. It is there by virtue of his creation in the image of God. God witnessed to them through every fact of the universe from the beginning of time; no rational creature can escape this witness. It is the witness of the Triune God whose face is before men everywhere all the time,… God made man a rational moral creature, he will always be that. As such, he is confronted with God, he is addressed by God. To not know God, man would have to destroy himself; he cannot do this. There is no non-being into which man can slip in order to escape God’s face and voice.” - Cornelius Van Til, The Defense of the Faith, (1955), 172

As he said in another place, “Man is revelational to himself.” The upshot is that whatever we do, whether driving a golf buggy or potting a plant or calculating the density of a star, we are using God’s gifts in God’s world, and we should use them in ways pleasing to God (cf. 1 Cor. 10:31). Although this is no place for it, Mayhue’s view advocates a non-revelational epistemology which I have problems with.

Science deals with the natural world. The natural world is revelatory. Thus Bavinck:

“Holy Scripture teaches that God very definitely, consciously, and intentionally, reveals himself in nature and history in the heart and conscience of human beings. When people do not acknowledge and understand this revelation, this is due to the darkening of their mind, and therefore renders them inexcusable.” Herman Bavinck, Reformed Dogmatics, Volume I, 340

This “inexcusability” does not cease when a person dons a lab coat. How can it? You say that “any future scientific endeavors do not enhance General Revelation.” That is true if the subject is the whole creation which we are still learning about. But it is not true if one is referring to the fund of knowledge we have gained, for which we ought, as creatures, to acknowledge as derivative and not original to ourselves.

I found your quote from Berkouwer interesting (one of his best books IMO). Here is another quote from the same book:

“He is the Creator, to whom also the mountains belong, but in the light of his universal power as Creator, all things are revealed in their absolute creatureliness. Everything which is able to impress us deeply, partakes of this creatureliness. All variations of nature do not cancel the common denominator: creature.” - G.C. Berkouwer, General Revelation, 123

The creatureliness of the world, and our status as spokesmen (if you like) for the world, will not allow, I don’t think, for the sort of strong separation of GR and knowledge of nature which your quote displays. Psalms 19:1-4 & 33:6-9 fit better with my Berkouwer than with your Berkouwer ;-)

I think both Mayhue and Berkouwer introduce a place for autonomy which their theology of humans as creatures will not permit. Finally, you write,

“The continuing advancement of science doesn’t provide us with any better insight into General Revelation.” Well, as a doctrine no. But as ubiquitous revelation it does. Very clear examples of this are the DNA code; epigenetic information in the structure of the cell; the Anthropic Principle, to name but a few. And, as I say, the very fact that the preconditions of science disallow naturalism as a basis for discovery; preconditions found only in Scripture also shows that scientists who fail to acknowledge the Creator are suppressing the knowledge of Him while at work in God’s world.

God bless you and yours,

Paul H

Dr. Paul Henebury

I am Founder of Telos Ministries, and Senior Pastor at Agape Bible Church in N. Ca.

Paul,

I think you have misunderstood the point of the quotes David has provided. The heavens declare the glory of God and so all of creation, whether observed by an electron microscope in the 21st century or by the naked eye in OT times, reveal something about God. Neither Mayhue or Berkouwer is disputing that. However the facts of science are NOT the same as the content of General Revelation. The Bible defines for us what General Revelation is and it is not the value of pi, the speed of gravity, or the inner complexities of a cell. All those things do indeed say something about the creator but it is not true that science is to general revelation as hermeneutics is to special revelation. Or to use your analogy, science deals with the natural world, the natural world is revelatory BUT that does not mean that the truth claims of science are the same as the truth claims of general revelation.

General revelation – being general – is revelation about God that is available to all men at every point in history. The advances of science do not increase our knowledge of God beyond what men of any age would have known about God via creation. The natural man tries to suppress the knowledge of God that general revelation reveals but he exults in the discoveries of science. The discoveries of science ought to drive men to God but they will embrace scientific facts while rejecting the revelatory implications, like Fred Hoyle who said, “nothing has shaken my atheism as much as this discovery”.

The main reason for insisting on this distinction between science and general revelation is that God’s revelation, coming from God himself, takes on the quality of his character. General revelation is not God’s complete revelation of himself but it is inerrant – something that cannot be said of science.

I’m having a spot of difficulty comprehending your comprehension of my comment. You are claiming I said things I did not say. However, you say,

“but it is not true that science is to general revelation as hermeneutics is to special revelation. [I didn’t say it was!] Or to use your analogy, science deals with the natural world, the natural world is revelatory BUT that does not mean that the truth claims of science are the same as the truth claims of general revelation.” - That isn’t an analogy and it is certainly not what I said.

Much else within your comment is in basic agreement with what I say above. I think the problem is that you infer I believe that the pronouncements of scientists equate to GR. I don’t think that for a second. Scientists, as the rest of us, say daft things which aren’t true. No, I am saying that all true knowledge, whether scientific or not, is revelatory.

I have not been able to locate the Mayhue quote in its context to verify whether he is making the point you say he is making. Whatever, are you saying the value of pi etc is non-revelatory? I am not sure how to take your assertions. My apologies in advance.

Paul H

Dr. Paul Henebury

I am Founder of Telos Ministries, and Senior Pastor at Agape Bible Church in N. Ca.

It doesn’t sound, then, as if we have any significant disagreement regarding these things. The Mayhue quote is on page 119 and is found in his chapter against Hugh Ross’s idea that nature is the 67th book of the Bible. I find that that there is much confusion regarding the relationship between science and general revelation and thus a subsequent undue authority that many bestow upon the truth claims of science. Mayhue’s chapter is excellent in helping work though those issues.

All of the facts regarding the universe, including the value of pi, are revelatory in the sense that they reveal something about God — but that something is not the value of pi (i.e., 3.1415926535…) but rather something like the externality of God, or his wisdom, or similar. In other words, the content of revelation is God himself, whereas the content of science is the putative details of its conclusions.

I like what you’ve written above. Thanks.

Dr. Paul Henebury

I am Founder of Telos Ministries, and Senior Pastor at Agape Bible Church in N. Ca.