Guinness uses "Leaning on the Everlasting Arms" in "Empty Chair" commercial
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[Mark_Smith]Yes, please speak about those churches that meet only on Sunday. Can you explain how that is worldly? Do you feel if those churches only have services on Sunday, they must be ignoring God the rest of the week? If worldly doesn’t equal sinful, are you implying that worldly equals apathetic? Or is worldly meaning something else?I appreciate that many churches do as you list. MANY DO NOT! Many churches meet only on Sunday morning. I was speaking to them. I only used the example of seeing the building’s empty because it triggered the response I needed for dmicah. Obviously there are a lot of different situations for churches.
BTW, what do your church’s teens do during the Summer when there is no AWANA?
The AWANA program is designed by AWANA to only run during the school year for preschool through 6th grade. Those kids and their leaders spend time with their families during the summer, going on vacations and other things families do. Do you feel a church HAS to have some sort of program for that age group during the three summer months or else the church is being worldly?
Mod note: This thread has taken some rabbit trails that I would like to see stopped on this thread: (you can always start another thread so this is not a censorship issue)
So no more about:
- Whether churches should meet multiple times on Sunday
- Or Awana
- Also there is I’m sure a thread about worldliness. So unless it is directly related to the original post (and it may be) take that to another thread
Thanks
All I was trying to communicate what that there is such thing as worldly that is not sinful, which dmicah did not agree with. I searched for an example other than alcohol. While driving Sunday night I found one…ONLY HAVING A SUNDAY AM SERVICE AND NOT MEETING ANY OTHER TIME OF THE WEEK. That is what I attempted to communicate. If you meet for prayer some night, or bible study, great. I was not addressing you.
And yes, if you “spiritually take off” 3 months of the year, that is worldly. But let’s move on. Vacation? What’s that? Haven’t been able to afford one in 12 years…
If you disagree…who cares. I’m a peon in Kansas.
Kevin Miller, let’s hear what you have to say about alcohol and hymns…
[Mark_Smith]Actually, I have a related rabbit trail to go down. Is it just the alcohol that makes the use of the hymn problematic, or would a problem arise with any commercial item being advertised with a hymn? I have been trying to find a YouTube video of a Christmas commercial using a spiritual carol as the background, but I haven’t found a suitable one yet. I just know that such ads DO happen at the Christmas season, and such a use would detract, in my mind, from the true spiritual message of the carol. On the other hand, God’s Word is so powerful that if a Biblical message is in the carol, that message could shine through even if the carol is being used in an advertisement.Kevin Miller, let’s hear what you have to say about alcohol and hymns…
Actually, refrigeration is mostly an issue for German style lagers, which are bottom fermented (yeast stays at the bottom of the vat) at 40F or so. The English (and former American) style is to top ferment an ale at a cool room temperature. It’s not as much an issue of climate as of whether you have enough caves and such where the ambient temperature is cool enough for proper fermentation. So strictly speaking, the inventors of refrigeration simply made it possible to produce lagers without a cave. The English had been making ales at room temperature and transporting them around the world for centuries by this time. (e.g. the Pilgrims landed in Massachusetts in part because their ale was running low)
What was a big issue, however, is transportation—when railroads didn’t go everywhere and taking a keg of liquor on a wagon was something of an ordeal, hard liquor made a lot of sense. Until one realizes how easy it is to get drunk, of course.
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