Anti-Westboro Baptist petition the most popular ever

Of the 260,000 votes it will ( during the judgment) be interesting to discover how many voters were sodomites.

I also wonder that if a similar petition was doing the rounds in the days of Noach calling him a nut job for cutting down all those trees how many were laughing and mocking him.

Is there anyone that will admit that most/all of what he says is Biblically accurate, even if you don’t like his methods?

How could he change those methods to get his message across I wonder? The best way would be to keep silent and keep your head down I suppose…..like a coward would do.

[Huw] Is there anyone that will admit that most/all of what he says is Biblically accurate, even if you don’t like his methods?

Use the Westboro Baptist Church Sign Generator to amaze your friends and slander your enemies

http://www.says-it.com/wbc/index.php

Seriously … wouldn’t bother me if they had their 501(c)(3) exemption revoked.

I’d forgotten his name and didn’t bother looking it up as I thought it was obvious…Santa Claus.

Joking. Mr Fred Phelps

Wasn’t it obvious?

I may as well admit that I didn’t have a clue who he was until I was posting on the BBC religion forums about 8 years ago. On a number of occasions I was accused of being Mr Phelps and so I looked him up and did some research.

I am a confessed homophobic and don’t hide the fact. I was banned from the BBC for expressing the scriptural view that sodomites are a curse on society by the Almighty for the sins of irreverence and injustice within society. This is obviously not acceptable to the carnal mind.

[Huw] Is there anyone that will admit that most/all of what he says is Biblically accurate, even if you don’t like his methods?

What do you find to be untruthful on his stance on sodomites?

[Huw]

What do you find to be untruthful on his stance on sodomites?

Being that you are “not in Kansas” … you may want to brush up on who they are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

Would you say he is a servant of Satan or the Eternal?

[Huw]

Would you say he is a servant of Satan or the Eternal?

[perhaps because you are “across the pond” you are not familiar with Westboro Baptist]

Response:

As I consider the gospel and the ministry of the gospel (as exemplified by the Apostle Paul who “plead[] with …. meekness and gentleness” (2 Corinthians 10:1) and who said “Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ” (1 Corinthians 11:1), I see nothing in the ministry of Westboro Baptist Church or Fred Phelps to make me think the church is a genuine Bible believing church or that he is a minister of the gospel.

Question:

As you would consider their ministry of hate (Google search terms = Westboro Baptist + pickets) what do you see in their ministry that bears the marks of a NT church?

“This group has been recognized as a hate group by organizations such as the Southern Poverty Law Center,” the petition states. “They pose a threat to the welfare and treatment of others and will not improve without some form of imposed regulation.”

It’s an idea that makes sense to David Gushee, distinguished professor of Christian ethics and director of the Center for Theology and Public Life at Mercer University.

“I would claim that Westboro’s public religious witness, if one can dignify it with that term, has indeed developed in a manner that arguably fits the FBI’s definition of a hate group,” Gushee said in an email to ABPnews.

The definition includes “groups that preach hatred and intolerance,” the bureau web site says.

“Their primary purpose now seems to be not just the promotion of hatred, especially against gays and lesbians, but also the fomenting of hatred against themselves through intentionally provocative demonstrations,” Gushee said.

Just a few days after the shootings, the moderator of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship denounced Westboro’s Sandy Hook plans and said it’s wrong to call the group a church.

“They are provocateurs of hatred for every hopeful human value most people hold dear,” Keith Herron told ABPnews. “To call themselves a church is to suggest unfathomable identity of God and faith that is sickening and vile.”

Lots of cut and paste and lots of words.

Question remains. Servant of Satan or of the Eternal.

considering the reproach Mr. Phelps’ and WBC’s offensive actions have gained for the Church, I’d say Satan. Unless, you consider the picketing of funerals of those killed in action to be what God would have you to do.

[Huw]

Lots of cut and paste and lots of words.

Question remains. Servant of Satan or of the Eternal.

I prefer to respond in my own way.

• Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka KS is NOT a Baptist and NOT a Bible-believing church
• Fred Phelps is not a minister of the gospel.
• I do consider them a hate group and as I thought I was clear earlier I do not think they should be accorded favorable tax status.
• There is no equivocation in my responses

OK your turn

Galatians 1:8-9

Read the interview with Shirley Phelps-Roper here: http://deliveredbygrace.com/?p=340, and the following parts to the article. Do they preach that Jesus died for sinners, rose again? That Jesus reconciled sinners to God? I’m not seeing it, or if it’s there, it’s buried in their profanity and name-calling. If they’re trying to preach the gospel (and I don’t think they are), they certainly aren’t trying to preach it loud and clear.

Or take this quote from part 2:

19. Who is the cure for evil and sin in this world?

RESPONSE: I have to tell you Josh – a frontal lobotomy might be a cure for your evil and sin – either that or I’m afraid that it might take death and hell to cure you of all your foolish and unlearned questions.

Really? You’re handed a gospel question on a silver platter and you answer that way? Back to Galatians 1:8-9: Whomever they serve, they don’t preach the gospel; ergo, they are accursed.

An alliance of six UK religious groups (the Baptist Union of Great Britain, Evangelical Alliance UK, Faithworks, Methodist Church of Great Britain, United Reformed Church and Bible Society-funded thinktank Theos) made a joint statement on February 19, 2009 in support of the government’s decision and condemning the activities of the Westboro Baptist Church saying, “We do not share [Westboro’s] hatred of lesbian and gay people. We believe that God loves all, irrespective of sexual orientation, and we unreservedly stand against their message of hate toward those communities.

Quote ‘’We believe that God loves all, irrespective of sexual orientation, and we unreservedly stand against their message of hate toward those communities’’. End quote.

Here we have the apostates speaking lies and yet they are well loved and respected amongst themselves and the world.

They are showing their approval for sin and denouncing a man, Fred Phelps, who speaks out against sin. Fred Phelps has the ability to zoom in on a particular sin or judgment and stick it right in your face and that is what people dislike. He preaches against the idolatry of flag worship and to a nation that loves it’s flag he becomes an abomination in the minds of those that have given their lives to the service of a country and a flag.

Fred Phelps is certainly a servant of the Eternal Almighty as all creatures big and small are His servants.

There is a tramp in Swansea that hasn’t washed or changed his clothes in 40 plus years. As his clothes rot he puts on another layer.
On a summers day you can smell him at 100 yds and wherever he stops he leaves his odor. He’s an atheist, in the true sense of the word, and yet he is a witness of the Almighty. I often stand with him for hours and watch the expressions on the faces of people going by and am reminded of the rich man and Lazarus.

Fred Phelps is known on these shores and that is more than I can say of any of you. His hatred for sin and sinners is as unmistakable as David’s was. If Fred Phelps is operating under the Holy Spirit then those that oppose him oppose the Eternal. Those that say he is working under the power of the prince of the air are committing the unforgivable sin, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.