“I’ve got a King James Bible,” Worley said. “I’ve been a preacher for 53 years. Do you think I’m going to bail out on this?”

Worley is helping no one.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gay-bashing-north-carolina-pas…

His congregation seems to be being helped, I suppose they are no one eh? But your link is from something The Reprobate Minds Socieity (LBGT) dug up from 1978. In 1978 many pulpits used such a posture. Now maybe it is unwise (you be the judge) but Worley didn’t say anything MORE, someone (The Reprobate Minds Society) dug this up. They went to find dirt to smear him.

I would hesitate, rather quickly, to acquiesce to their terms. Apparently some are happy to. Not me.

Aaron,

So Pastor Worley says the sodomites should die.

What do you believe should be the legal penalty for those the engage in same sex acts?

Do you take the libertarian view, “that it is none of my business”?

or do you hold to a mistaken view of the Law and Grace which pretends that the Law no longer exists?

or do you believe that the Law of God is still in effect for those who are not under Grace and therefore the punishment for same sex acts proscribed in the Law are still in effect?

Can the Supreme Court legalize sodomy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas] Lawrence v. Texas

Thanks for answering.

He is a mess. He has a megaphone to the nation, so why can’t he take the opportunity to be clear with the gospel?

Let him say what John says,

“He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death” (Rev. 21:7-8)

Or let him say what Paul says,
“Do you not kno that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.”

I don’t want to hear what Worley has to say. He is suppose to be God’s ordained gospel messenger, not some self appointed king of God’s theocracy.

[Todd Wood] Let him say what John says …[o] r let him say what Paul says … I don’t want to hear what Worley has to say.

This.

(and all conservative believers) to disappear into a black hole of irrevelance. He is a dream for the gay agenda. He plays right to a movement that gain’s inceasing legitimacy by protraying Worley’s words as hate speech. What? You don’t believe that it is hate speech? The gay community does. And so do an ever increasing number of voting Americans. The Worley’s of the IFB world are bringing us to the point where the government will determine what can be spoken from the pulpit. We may inevitably being going down that path, but these foolish men are greasing the path.

Yeah, I agree with that. Worley is greasing the skids for the removal of religious liberties here in the States. How long until this guy makes the headlines of CNN or the NY Times?

I’m reading http://www.amazon.com/Bonhoeffer-Pastor-Martyr-Prophet-Spy/dp/159555138…] Metaxas’ book on Dietrich Bonhoeffer now, and I’ve come to the roughly middle of the book where the nascent Third Reich starts taking over and co-opting the German church. Some of the parallels are downright scary.

[Todd Wood] He is a mess. He has a megaphone to the nation, so why can’t he take the opportunity to be clear with the gospel?

He has, apparently you have failed to “take the opportunity” to read or hear online many of the clear gospel messages Pastor Worley has provided. Oops. Maybe reading only what The Reprobate Minds Society provide you in the way of quotes isn’t a good idea in order to evaluate Pastor Worley.

[Todd Wood] He is suppose to be God’s ordained gospel messenger, not some self appointed king of God’s theocracy.

I don’t recall Pastor Worley teaching that he was a “self appointed kind of God’s theocracy”. Hmmm… maybe that is called a false accusation, at least an implied one. Not such a good thing ya’ know.

Now, if Pastor Worley comes to this point and believe he is this and says it, fine. But until now I believe he made clear that his comments were with the assumption that the government could and should appreciate the view taken by God for the protection of The Theocracy of Israel and their criminalization of the perversion of homosexuality.

[Jeffrey Dean] (and all conservative believers) to disappear into a black hole of irrevelance. He is a dream for the gay agenda. He plays right to a movement that gain’s inceasing legitimacy by protraying Worley’s words as hate speech. What? You don’t believe that it is hate speech? The gay community does. And so do an ever increasing number of voting Americans. The Worley’s of the IFB world are bringing us to the point where the government will determine what can be spoken from the pulpit. We may inevitably being going down that path, but these foolish men are greasing the path.

Remember dear brother, our Lord’s own words were used to falsely condemn him to death while the “religious” and “theologically informed” nodded like fools. The Evil One has many devices in which good is called evil and evil good, even to the illusion of the mind which does not discern so well.

Who asked:

What do you believe should be the legal penalty for those the engage in same sex acts?

My question for you: “What do you believe should be the legal penalty for those the engage in same sex acts?”

Farmer Tom, I believe Paul makes it clear that we are no longer under the OT Law but rather under the Law of Christ as contained in the NT. There is no NT warrant for corporal punishment.

I wonder if you would argue for the death penalty for all OT capital offenses?

[Jim Peet] Who asked:

What do you believe should be the legal penalty for those the engage in same sex acts?

My question for you: “What do you believe should be the legal penalty for those the engage in same sex acts?”

Are you saying, Jim, that no enlightenment can be gained or is permitted to be gained from the law which mandated the Theocracy of Israel protect its perpetuity through punishing sexual perversion? I see no such prohibition in Scripture.

So long as no one advocates it is binding on non-theocratic governments but that we may still be free to utilize such insight regarding social or humanitarian preservation, prey tell where is this forbidden??

[Greg Long] Farmer Tom, I believe Paul makes it clear that we are no longer under the OT Law but rather under the Law of Christ as contained in the NT. There is no NT warrant for corporal punishment.

I wonder if you would argue for the death penalty for all OT capital offenses?

The “we” refers to “the people of God” which now is identified by those who have placed faith in Christ and that law refers to Theocratic law. It never refers to any legitimate non-theocratic law under which divine establishment principles function and under which you are obligated to respect, observe and obey including the criminalization of sexual perversion. Show me where you have been emancipated from such and you might have an argument. But that will not be forthcoming.

Alex I honestly have no idea what you are saying.

[Alex Guggenheim] The “we” refers to “the people of God” which now is identified by those who have placed faith in Christ and that law refers to Theocratic law. It never refers to any legitimate non-theocratic law under which divine establishment principles function and under which you are obligated to respect, observe and obey including the criminalization of sexual perversion. Show me where you have been emancipated from such and you might have an argument. But that will not be forthcoming.

Actually, it is forthcoming:

[Romans 10:1-12]
Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) or “‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him.

and

[Hebrews 8:6-13]
But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second.

For he finds fault with them when he says:

“Behold, the days are coming,
declares the Lord,
when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah,
not like the covenant that I made with their fathers
on the day when I took them by the hand
to bring them out of the land of Egypt.
For they did not continue in my covenant,
and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord.

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord:

I will put my laws into their minds,
and write them on their hearts,
and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people.

And they shall not teach, each one his neighbor
and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’
for they shall all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.

For I will be merciful toward their iniquities,
and I will remember their sins no more.”

In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.