How has Christianity in America fared since the colonial period? (Answer according to your first impression.)
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How has Christianity in America fared since the colonial period? (Answer according to your first impression.)
America has steadily become more Christian Votes: 0
America has steadily become less Christian Votes: 14
American Christianity has remained proportionately stable Votes: 0
American Christianity is an erratic graph with no discernible trend Votes: 2
Other Votes: 1
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Seems to me it has not quite been steady but the pattern has been decreasing Christianess. If I could graph it, I’d have a few places where the trend reversed briefly, and starting in the 50’s or 60’s I’d show the tend accelerating rapidly.
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In the colonial period, only about 17-22% of Americans were members of a Christian church. By the Civil War, that number had risen to around 37%. It dipped a bit in the War, but recovered quickly, breaking the 50% mark in the twentieth century. There was a small but steady rise throughout the 20th century, hitting 60% in 1980 and remaining pretty consistent since then.
Part of the reason for this is the frontier nature of America. Frontiers always have a higher proportion of irreligious persons and unattached singles. Also, churches, especially established denominations, take time to penetrate new areas. This drags down the percentage. I was surprised, though, by their research into Congregational New England. They assert that although the culture was controlled by a highly religious minority, the majority of citizens were not attached to a Christian church and did not attend worship. Of course, in the colonial era, New England was frontier-like, so the prior sociological analysis accounts for some of that.
Of course, there is more than one way to interpret “How has Christianity fared,” but the quantitative data suggests that, at the very least, much more of the population is “churched” now than used to be.
Knowing this data (and assuming its accuracy), would anyone change his vote?
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I’d need to read all the details of how the data was gathered to form an opinion on that, but I’m skeptical.
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— Many colonies required church membership for voting privileges.
— Most taxed to pay for their state approved church.
— Dissenters were usually banned from the community.
— Much of the colonial development was done specifically for religious reasons.
I find it impossible to believe that only 20% (or less) of the population was churched unless someone is playing with statistics to make a point.
Why is it that my voice always seems to be loudest when I am saying the dumbest things?
I’ve seen the methodology behind their statistics, and it seems sound. Of course, I’m not a statistician, so, that may not be worth much. After an admittedly brief search, I’m not aware that their statistics are being contested. For the most part, they relied on the public records of the church rolls matched against town records. Certain historians will give you much higher numbers, but they’re basically counting the whole town population and subtracting a supposedly reasonable number of dissenters, very much like Catholics counting Latin Americans. BTW, as far as I am aware, most social historians believe that church attendance is much higher now than it was 200 years ago.
One of their points is that the colonial New England that we imagine - pilgrims and puritans - is the New England of a quantitatively small but culturally dominant group. They were the writers, educators, and culture-producers, so they have are enormously over-represented (quantitatively). We forget how worldly many people were, because most of those people did not perpetuate culture. Ben Franklin, however, bragged about his adventures with prostitutes and mistresses.
Here is a link to Finke’s and Stark’s paper detailing their methodology for constructing 19th century church attendance statistics. From what I remember, a similar method was used for their work on the colonial period: http://www.scribd.com/doc/20401270/Stark-and-Finke-Turning-Pews-Into-Pe…
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I don’t think we can say that about “church members” and their Bibles today.
Since ancient times, historians have focused overwhelmingly on exceptional individuals and the ruling class. That was deliberate; they didn’t find ordinary life noteworthy. In the last few decades, though, historians have made concerted efforts to uncover what life was like for regular people.
Religion is one area in which you cannot project the beliefs and practices of the rulers and culture-producers onto the majority population. For example, in, say, 11th century Europe, everyone was Catholic, right? Sort of. There were plenty of “heretics.” There were far more people who probably were Catholic but their vision of Christianity was strongly influenced by local pagan superstitions and rituals. There were a lot of people who were “Catholic” but never went to church or partook of the sacraments. In fact, religious adherence among many was so nominal that the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) mandated that all Catholics must go to confession and take communion at least once per year. Now, that’s commitment.
In essence, this is what Finke and Stark are saying. You can’t uncritically project the beliefs of the pastors onto the townspeople. There are at least 2 well-known occurrences in American history that lend credence to this idea. First, remember the halfway covenant. There were enough lapsed Christians that wanted their children baptized that many churches felt pressured into accommodating them. Enough indeed that Jonathan Edwards, a celebrity in his own day, got booted out for reasserting the traditional paedobaptist doctrine.
Second, there is the explosive growth of Methodists and Baptists after the Revolution. Where did all these people come from? Well, some left the Congregational and Anglican churches, but most were unreached converts. There must have been a lot of unreached people to account for that growth.
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If were going to debunk the stats, where I’d look is for % of religious population in the origin countries. It would be a big indicator of some kind of miscalculation if you suddenly have a much smaller % in the colonies than you did in the source countries. Did gobs of them lose their faith on the ship en route? (That actually might not be so hard to believe… but it seems more likely that they’d get more religious just trying to survive the trip!)
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[Aaron Blumer] I didn’t mean to suggest the old “they came for religious reasons” idea. Rather, they came from places where everybody was religious in some Christianish way.I do think that comparing the statistics would be useful, but I’d also expect them to be noticeably lower. That’s one of the major contributions of their work. They show consistently over 2 centuries how frontier regions have significantly lower levels of religious participation. New England was mostly frontier, then over time the rates go up. You get new frontiers, though, which keep dragging down the national rate. We forget how frontier/rural America was. On the eve of the Civil War, America was still at the agricultural level that England was in 1688, two centuries earlier.
If were going to debunk the stats, where I’d look is for % of religious population in the origin countries. It would be a big indicator of some kind of miscalculation if you suddenly have a much smaller % in the colonies than you did in the source countries. Did gobs of them lose their faith on the ship en route? (That actually might not be so hard to believe… but it seems more likely that they’d get more religious just trying to survive the trip!)
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