Survey Says . . .
The 2009-2010 SI Reader Survey ended a few months ago. Much of the data confirmed what we already pretty much knew. But there are some surprises, too. What follows includes a sampling of both the expected and the surprising. For those who would like to look at the results in detail, the attached files provide a summary as well as several “crosstab” reports which group results under various headings.
The survey was divided into three major sections, which we loosely labeled Demographics, SharperIron and Views. 704 people took the survey; 643 of these completed it. While this is a smaller sample than I’d hoped, it’s large enough to be interesting.
Demographics
A little over half of those who took the survey were SI members, with the other two quarters divided about evenly between readers who were once members (but did not re-register in June of 2009 when the site migrated to new software), and readers who have never been been members.
Though it’s difficult to be sure how well that ratio reflects the SI readership as a whole, it’s certainly clear that we have a significant percentage of readers who are not members.
About a third of survey participants said they had been reading SI since it was launched in 2005.
A solid majority of those surveyed are between the ages of 24 and 55. They are almost evenly divided among three age groups, 25-34 year olds (27%), 35-44 year olds (25%) and 45-54 year olds (23%).
Not surprisingly, 84% are male.
Occupations and education
Occupations reflected in the survey vary widely. (Participants were allowed to select multiple occupations, so some were counted toward more than one.) Though the majority of those surveyed were not pastors, “pastor” was the largest single occupational group (35%), with “teacher” a distant second at 12%. Students, homemakers, missionaries and church staff were not far behind.
Most of us were surprised to see that 37% of survey respondents had earned master’s degrees and another 16% had master’s degree work in progress. 7% were working on doctoral degrees of one sort or another.
SharperIron
At 85%, a strong majority of those surveyed said they read front page articles when they visit the site. While any number of these may also be in the habit of reading other SI content, the percentages for Filings, forum content, etc. were significantly lower. Perhaps the most interesting inference here is that if 85% read the front page articles when they visit, 15% do not, heading instead for Filings or the forums primarily but also for the Foundry and the Blogroll.
Question 12 provides more context. There, we asked participants to rate how much they value the different forms of content at the site. Among those who responded, 44% expressed much appreciation for “Front page articles in general,” and 35% much appreciated Filings posts.
A surprise to me was that 33% said they had “very little” appreciation for the conference “Liveblogs” (which we now call Event Blogs). This was the only content category that had more in the “appreciate very little” column than the “appreciate somewhat” column. If we were going to cut something, the numbers would recommend conference blogs. But SharperIron ought to be a place for keeping an eye on what’s happening in Fundamentalism. For that reason alone, we can’t abandon reporting from conferences. Rather, we should probably take that number as an indication that we should for ways to improve the presentation and content of what we post from conferences.
One strong response under “changes you would welcome” (question 15) is noteworthy as well: “structured debates between selected participants” scored 42%, almost twice the votes the second place pick received (“podcast” interviews with leading evangelicals, 23%). This is a long time dream of mine. We just haven’t figured out how to do it yet!
The forums
The survey included several questions aimed at getting an idea of what people think of the forums and why there is less activity in them than previously (though I should note that recent months have evidence a trend of increasing activity there).
Most survey respondents (60%) indicated they don’t post often simply because they don’t have time. It’s hard to find fault with that! Forum interaction is not for everyone and those who cease to find it helpful are wise to find better ways to spend the time.
But two other numbers stand out in that area. 16% indicated that they stay out of forum discussions because they “don’t like to argue,” and a full 26% responded “other” and wrote comments as to why they do not post more often. It’s difficult to see patterns in the “other” comments. The file named “comments.pdf” lists the full text of all the comments with their corresponding questions. If you can discern patterns in them, we’d be happy to see your observations in the thread on this article. But keep in mind that the question is negatively oriented: that is, since it asks why people do not do something, the comments should be expected to be more negative than positive. To properly weigh them, you have to imagine what sorts of comments might be posted if we had also asked “Why do you like to post in the forums?”
The outcome to question 14 was encouraging. 62% indicated that they did not believe the site gives too much influence to ill-informed or ill-mannered people. Though the question is broadly worded, I’m assuming most of the opportunity for this sort of influence to occur would be in the forums, not in the front page articles. The question is important to us since a huge part of the trick we’re trying to pull off here is to allow considerable freedom in posting opinions, yet not become a dumping ground for ignorance and discontent. Though the 62% number is encouraging, the fact that 24% said SI does give too much influence to folks who shouldn’t have it suggests we have more work to do in that area.
But I’d be a fool to miss the opportunity to talk to that 24%. One way you can improve the value of discussion in the forums is to post better mannered and better informed opinions yourself. There will never be a day when we have too many wise, even tempered, articulate posters in the forums! (I’d love to have that problem. We’d post an ad: “More cantankerous know-it-alls wanted in forums.” That’ll be the day!)
Views on issues
Many responses in this area were interesting. In the sub-topic of Fundamentalism, some scores stand out. I was surprised (and I’ll admit, pleased) that 51% of those who responded said they “identify with the best of the Fundamentalist movement.” Another 21% wanted to distance themselves from the movement but still claim the idea. About 9% felt they needed to be more nuanced and offered comments. But a full 18% basically said they don’t quite fit the Fundamentalist profile.
(Keep in mind, that only about half of the survey respondents are members of the site).
Bible translations
The 60% who are multitranslational is a larger group than I expected. Another 20% said that though they use only the KJV, they do not believe it is necessarily wrong for others to use something else.
Calvinism
There’s no disputing that SI has a Calvinist tilt in the forums. I suspect that if such a thing could be measured, Fundamentalist and conservative evangelical blogdom as a whole has a strongly Calvinist tilt. This is currently where a great deal of the pastoral and intellectual energy is in the American Christian landscape.
But the survey results reveal that the Calvinist tilt at SI has been overestimated by some of our critics and is not as large as it may seem when reading randomly in the forums. 35% said they have several beliefs in common with Calvinism but do not claim the name. Another 6% said they reject Calvinism but respect it. Another 10% rejected it and said they see it as serious error.
Reformed theology
About 50% expressed a very positive attitude toward the Reformed tradition but did not claim to be “Reformed.” 16% claimed the label, but specified exceptions in the areas of baptism and eschatology. Only 4% claimed the label without reservation.
Roughly the same number rejected “Reformed teaching” as serious error as rejected Calvinism as serious error: 11%.
Eschatology
The strong representation for pre-tribulational pre-millennialism surprised me. I expected a majority but not 80%. Interestingly though, only 43% of respondents (not all of which were among the pre-millennialists) said they were “very confident” of their beliefs.
Lessons from the process
Next time, we’ll want to promote more aggressively to try to get a larger sample. We’ll also want to have fewer questions that allow more than one answer to be selected. That question format makes interpreting the results much more difficult. Finally, though the comments are interesting, they are almost impossible to actually use except when a large majority are saying essentially the same thing—which is pretty rare. Consequently, though open ended questions may be more satisfying to answer (and more fun to read), they are less useful for making decisions than questions that force respondents into pigeon holes. Probably both are necessary to round each other out.
A word about the crosstab reports: these are easy to misread. For example, if you look at the Calvinism Crosstab report, the first question could easily be misread to mean that 53% of SI’s members are five point Calvinists. But what it actually means is that 53% of those who said they were five point Calvinists are members. To find out how many of the members (who took the survey) are five point Calvinists, you have to look at the Membership Crosstab report, question 19 (the answer is 22%).
If you have questions about other relationships between survey items or have any other questions, don’t hesitate to post them in the thread below. We only ran a few select crosstab reports, then terminated the account at Survey Monkey (fees are required to keep it open). But we have all the data and can run our own reports to glean additional “crosstab” type information (like, how many homemakers were premillennialists, if you want to know). We’re also aware that a couple of the crosstab reports are incomplete (something went wrong in the printing-to-pdf process).
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On Calvinism, within the confines of Fundamentalism this definitely seems to be a generational issue. For example, I know of a very large, influential church in Greenville where the senior pastor is not a Calvinist (and I’m not sure about the other pastors), but all of the dozen or so interns and “preacher boys” (hate that term) I’ve met from that church are quite outspokenly 5-point. I also think Calvinism among Fundamentalist youth is actually bigger than this survey suggests, because there is a substantial group of highly Calvinistic young ex-fundamentalists that this survey wouldn’t reach. On the one hand, maybe some would discount them because they aren’t fundamentalists anymore; I would think, though, that anyone interested in Fundamentalism would want to consider where people raised in it ended up. Actually, an ex-Fundamentalist survey would be quite interesting (and perhaps a little frightening).
On the pre-trib issue, this only seems surprising because of a sociological shift in Fundamentalism. Due to some historical particularities early on in the Fundamentalist movement, being pre-trib or at the very least pre-millennial was virtually equated with believing the Bible. Lots of the Bible colleges and even the Sword of the Lord advertised themselves as premillennial. George Dollar, in his A History of Fundamentalism, says that you’re not a historic Fundamentalist unless you’re pre-trib. Stack that with the Thief in the Night movies, Hal Lindsey, and Left Behind, and you have something of a monopoly on culture. Besides, this isn’t an area that very many people feel particularly interested in studying. I’m certain that many Fundamentalist church-goers are only dimly aware that there are even other views out there, and most don’t personally know anybody that holds one. So pre-trib is the default option in the American church and most people aren’t going to feel sufficiently motivated to seek out alternatives. However, the sociological shift is that eschatological views hav steadily been moving back out of the center of American religious discourse. Historical theology is making a come-back as well. At least in academic circles, there is a greater awareness of the plurality of views and the short lifespan of Dispensationalism, so it seems a little silly to try to judge someone’s orthodoxy by their eschatological timetable. I would say that in academia, Dispensationalism is a rapidly shrinking minority; however, that may not transfer to the churches where it has become something of a cultural given.
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But per Google Analytics, we had 13,000 + “Absolute Unique Visitors” in the last 30 days (a percentage of that would be ‘bots and users who returned multiple times but with different IP addresses, I’m guessing). So… I’d like to have seen a couple thousand surveys. Good solution maybe: have a drawing and give $50 to a few random winners who completed surveys.
an ex-Fundamentalist survey would be quite interesting (and perhaps a little frightening).That is a fascinating idea!
About premillennialism…
I do think there is a significant “never thought about it much” factor. But I doubt it’s really that high. Idea for next survey: reask the “Chrsit’s return” question and add a question to measure how much serious thought folks have given to the pretrib/premil questions… and see how they correlate.
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1. I have personally changed my beliefs concerning Calvinism in this way:
a) I am more Calvinistic than I used to be
b) I am less Calvinistic than I used to be
c) I am about the same as I’ve been
d) My beliefs in this area are currently fluctuating
e) Other
2. It appears to me that in the last 20 years, Fundamentalism has changed in its stance toward Calvinism in this way:
a) It is more Calvinistic than it used to be
b) It is less Calvinistic than it used to be
c) It is about the same as it has been
d) I don’t know
e) Other
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[Charlie] On Calvinism, within the confines of Fundamentalism this definitely seems to be a generational issue. For example, I know of a very large, influential church in Greenville where the senior pastor is not a Calvinist (and I’m not sure about the other pastors), but all of the dozen or so interns and “preacher boys” (hate that term) I’ve met from that church are quite outspokenly 5-point. I also think Calvinism among Fundamentalist youth is actually bigger than this survey suggests, because there is a substantial group of highly Calvinistic young ex-fundamentalists that this survey wouldn’t reach. On the one hand, maybe some would discount them because they aren’t fundamentalists anymore; I would think, though, that anyone interested in Fundamentalism would want to consider where people raised in it ended up. Actually, an ex-Fundamentalist survey would be quite interesting (and perhaps a little frightening)…Dispensationalism is a rapidly shrinking minority; however, that may not transfer to the churches where it has become something of a cultural given.It is too easy to say that Fundamentalism has gotten more Calvinistic. I would say that Fundamentalism has matured and gotten more theologically oriented. Those are good things.
Enter a new problem: Many YF’s, equating the “old Fundamentalism” with a lack of theological depth, and (falsely) equating this lack of theological depth with dispensationalism, and lookling for something deeper and weightier, have become enamored with elements of Reformed Theology.
This is all very predictable, to some extent. Us “young guys” often think we know more than we really are able to competently process at any given time. Further, for guys who have only grown up in Independent Fundamental Baptist churches, they may have a very limited range of life experiences against which to compare such things — even very little actual theological understanding by which they can evaluate these various streams of historical or systematic theology.
Having grown up neck-deep in Lutheran theology, but now in adulthood defining my theology by dispensationalism — which I have learned first-hand from its greatest teachers, bar none — and not being a five-point Calvinist, I look at the trends Charlie is talking about with a healthy dose of BOTH optimism and skepticism.
The people I am most interested in following really haven’t changed too much through the years — they have been doing heavy-duty dispensational theology for decades. That is where I will hang my hat — regardless of what trends may come or go.
And — oh, yeah — I also HATE the term “preacher boy.” :p
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FWIW (or, more vulgarly… “so there!”)
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[Charlie] I also thought a “trends” survey might be interesting. The questions would address changes in views and could consist of two parallel sorts. The point is to correlate actual trends with perceived trends.How about: f/g) It is more/less divided over Calvinism than it used to be?
1. I have personally changed my beliefs concerning Calvinism in this way:
a) I am more Calvinistic than I used to be
b) I am less Calvinistic than I used to be
c) I am about the same as I’ve been
d) My beliefs in this area are currently fluctuating
e) Other
2. It appears to me that in the last 20 years, Fundamentalism has changed in its stance toward Calvinism in this way:
a) It is more Calvinistic than it used to be
b) It is less Calvinistic than it used to be
c) It is about the same as it has been
d) I don’t know
e) Other
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[Don Johnson] To dip my oar in, however briefly, I personally love the term and wholeheartedly embrace it.Don,
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You can have a double-helping — take mine too! H:)
To me the term “preacher boy” is anachronistic and demeaning. Not only that, it communicates nothing to someone who is not in on “the lingo.” If someone were to use it in the northern half of the United States, outside the four walls of “our circles,” people would probably think the guy was either a nut or a cultist.
I have always found the term bizarre, FWIW.
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[Paul J. Scharf]The use of the term ‘boy’ is definitely a Southernism, along with calling everyone ‘honey’ and damning the rest with “Bless yer heart”. ;) ‘Boy’ is not meant to be demeaning any more than when women are referred to as ‘girls’.
To me the term “preacher boy” is anachronistic and demeaning. Not only that, it communicates nothing to someone who is not in on “the lingo.” If someone were to use it in the northern half of the United States, outside the four walls of “our circles,” people would probably think the guy was either a nut or a cultist.
I have always found the term bizarre, FWIW.
I understand the cultural/linguistic disconnect- my dh is from NJ, and it took me a while to assimilate him. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php] http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-alien003.gif
[Charlie] Besides, this isn’t an area that very many people feel particularly interested in studying. I’m certain that many Fundamentalist church-goers are only dimly aware that there are even other views out there, and most don’t personally know anybody that holds one. So pre-trib is the default option in the American church and most people aren’t going to feel sufficiently motivated to seek out alternatives.Given my experience as a fairly typical layman, I’d agree with what you are saying here. I grew up in a fundamental methodist church, and I now attend a baptist church, and I’ve spent a fair amount of time in college at a “Bible” church. I’d have to say that I describe my believes as mostly dispensationalist, but then again, dispensationalism was pretty much all I remember being taught. (I had heard something about some of the other views, but it was so little, that what I remember is pretty much limited to the definitions of the terms for things like Covenant Theology, Amillenialism, etc.) It would be a rare church where a pastor would really expose the people to in-depth versions of views he did not hold (or believe his congregation to be capable of handling it properly), and sadly, from what I see, it would be the rare lay person who would be interested in such study. Pastors generally preach what they believe, which is not entirely unreasonable — a church is not a seminary, and in most typical fundamental churches that I’ve attended (the current one included), you can almost hear an audible sigh from the congregation if the message is going to be on something deeply theological rather than a “standard” expositional message that is more geared to application.
I’m not a completely uneducated lout (M.S. in Computer Science, B.S. in Math), I attended a Christian college for undergrad, and Christian school (with very solid doctrinal Bible classes) for high school. But I would have to say that my theological education (i.e. what is gleaned through Bible-reading, preaching, SS classes, high school and college Bible classes) is limited. Through all that, I never studied hermeneutics, systematic theology, or Greek even at a basic level. I still kind of wish that my undergrad college had had something like placement tests for Bible, where they could see if the background of the student already included the basics of Bible Study, Christian Growth, OT & NT, and Bible Doctrines. That way, I could have used those hours for taking something a bit more advanced (but still basic for the theology student) from the Bible department.
Still, I would say the people in churches are only “sufficiently motivated to seek out alternatives” if they see a HUGE disconnect between what they are taught and what the Bible teaches. It took a fairly large chain of abuses for even someone of the caliber of Martin Luther to leave the R.C. church over doctrine, and he stayed in for quite some time thinking that things would change when people understood what the Bible said.
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